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Old 4th July 2014, 12:14
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Re: Need first name of Uffz ___ Otten, of 3./StG1 FL at Oronsko, Poland, on 25.09.39

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Larry,
may you know the reason of this force landing: A/A or engine damage but non combat reason?

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Old 4th July 2014, 15:53
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Re: Need first name of Uffz ___ Otten, of 3./StG1 FL at Oronsko, Poland, on 25.09.39

Mirek,

We have translated the I./StG1 KTB for the PC, but it doesn't specifically state the reason for this incident. It took place following a combat mission to downtown Warsaw, which was opposed by "strong flak of all calibers." Under remarks, one a/c of 2./StG1 had a "wing seriously damaged by flak," and then noting that Uffz Otten of 3./StG1 belly landed at the airfield." It doesn't give the reason for the belly landing, although it can be inferred that it was due to flak damage. I have nine views of this a/c in the EoE LW Loss/Damages DB, but none show any obvious flak damage. However, the belly landing did major damage to the engine and prop, as well as shearing away the main wheels. This will likely be one of our EoE color profile a/c for 3 Staffel representing the PC.

Still need to know the first name of this pilot, and the name of his gunner, if possible.
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Re: Need first name of Uffz ___ Otten, of 3./StG1 FL at Oronsko, Poland, on 25.09.39

Larry,
you well know, that on 25.09. was dane against Warsaw very heavy fire attack by LW + field artilerry. Very terrible day for citisens and defenders, plenty killed (5000-10 000?) + many huge fires in whole Warsaw area. The attack totaly crushed the defence spirit and the city very soon capitulated after it (27.09. - the end).

During this day defenders claimed several victories, but no so many (1 Ju 87 - 100% loss of 11./LG 1 + 2xJu52). This Ju 87 matched to it, but not as a totaly destroyed and not specified the reason of damage (pilot's error or combat damage?).

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Re: Need first name of Uffz ___ Otten, of 3./StG1 FL at Oronsko, Poland, on 25.09.39

Mirek,

Thanx for your comments. No way to know for sure the exact cause of the belly landing incident unless we get some further reporting.

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Re: Need first name of Uffz ___ Otten, of 3./StG1 FL at Oronsko, Poland, on 25.09.39

Larry
of course one one could be sure of it, but even Ii was not combat damage (?) only bally-landing means 30-45 % damages.

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