Me262 found at Deelen

[Stig Jarlevik]

Both Dan O'Connell and Jan Horn in their books have WNr 130026

B Rgds
Stig

[Jaap Woortman]

Originally Posted by Stig Jarlevik

Both Dan O'Connell and Jan Horn in their books have WNr 130026

But Dan O'Connell has also: "130126 Me 262 A-2a. Assigned to 3./KG 51. Uffz. Herbert Schauder, was
killed as he was shot down by German flak near Arnheim on 12 September 1944. 9K+AL. See W. Nr. 130026."

I have some questions that could help finding more evidence for the WNr. in the wreckage.
Is there a WNr plate in the frame of an Me 262?
What would be the location of the WNr plate in the frame of an Me 262?
And does anyone has an example of an WNr plate from an Me 262?
With regards,

Jaap

[Richard T. Eger]

Dear Jaap,

There were plans to have a lot of identification plates on the Me 262's, but I don't think these plans were ever carried out. The only "plate" I've ever seen was on Me 262B-1a, W.Nr. 110639, but I'm not sure how authentic it was. It certainly wasn't a standard ID plate.

Regards,
Richard

[stephen f. polyak]

Here's what was intended and may have been, but I have never seen such a plate for a Me262, even in period photos showing the fuselage in this area. Who can produce a photo that reveals the main plate? As far as airframe component/subassembly plates, they were used and examples may be found on surviving airplanes as well as in item collections.

[Jaap Woortman]

Thanks Stephen and Richard,

If someone could present a picture of an WNr plate of the airframe of a Me 262 would be great and a big help.
With regards,

Jaap

[ouidjat]

Hello Jaap and Stephen,

Alright then;

"Weisse 34" (Black nose) of 1./NAGr.6, taken in München-Riem Scrap beside Wiesses F has one just over "3" number.
"Weisse 9", same unit taken during winter at Lechfled (?) has one; just over "9".
"Lady Jess IV" has one.
...
The colour picture of one A-1a/U3 on nose, no code number, has one.
...
500539 at Lechfeld "Weisse 33" too.
...
I think Guido Mukte machine had one too but it's not clear.

And so on.

Turn to be easier when one know where to look for it!

Thanks Stephen.

Best regards, Franck.

[Jaap Woortman]

Originally Posted by ouidjat

I think Guido Mutke machine had one too but it's not clear.

Best regards, Franck.

I have had contact with the Deutsches Museum.
Their Me 262 W.Nr. 500071 has had a Werknummer-plate on the left side of the fuselage near the cockpit.
But it's gone, "we suppose,it was stolen many years ago" according the curator of aeronautics.

Jaap

[pikas]

Originally Posted by Jaap Woortman

Thanks Stephen and Richard,

If someone could present a picture of an WNr plate of the airframe of a Me 262 would be great and a big help.
With regards,

Jaap

130026

[Richard T. Eger]

Dear All,

I've looked at photos of each of the Me 262's that Franck has mentioned, except for the Deutches Museum's aircraft. The name plate should be a standard rectangular one as shown in the attachment provided by Stephen Polyak. With a couple of possible exceptions, the rest of the supposed name plates don't fit this illustration. For instance, a rectangle that is formed by 4 large black smudges does not fit. Lady Jess IV has the American pilot's name on it directly below the cockpit canopy. But others, as Franck points out, could be actual nameplates. Unfortunately, none of the photos I have gets close enough to see if they truly conform to what a nameplate should have on it.

It is possible that a decision was made not to use nameplates to avoid giving hints to the Allies where the hidden assembly facilities were located. There is also the issue of Nachrüstbetrieb, wherein airframes assembled at one of the main plants were disassembled and shipped by land for reassembly and checkout elsewhere, such as at Brandenburg-Briest. What Hersteller would thus be on the tag?

Regards,
Richard

[Jaap Woortman]

Originally Posted by Jaap Woortman

What would be the location of the WNr plate in the frame of an Me 262?

After all the discussion about air-intakes just below the cockpit windows, I want to put my question in another way.
If the WNr plate is not in the position according to Stephen's document, what would be then the most logical position
of the WNr-plate of the aircraft for the Me 262. Or wasn't there a aircraft WNr-plate at all?

Another question is: does someone has a list of Baugruppen of the Me 262. And is such a list published, dig. or on paper?

Jaap