Dornier 215 from Stab Z.G. 1

[sidney]

Here is the indirect proof that the above aircraft code might have remained PK+DX in spite of the prominently sported ZG 1 "Wespen" emblem. Source: An expired eBay auction.

[obdl3945]

Sydney...

Well, that's one photo I've never seen before... a Caudron 445 with a Wasp insignia.

Great image, and it certainly adds weight to the possibility of the Stkz being retained on the Do215.

Thanks for the image.

Regards,

Paul

[Pawel Burchard]

Originally Posted by obdl3945

This is where I would imagine a side-mounted MG to be on a Do17Z, and I am aware of the 'indented' lateral position of the Do217, where the MG was fitted into a recessed area. I accept there is no visible evidence of an MG being fitted in this image (no MG barrel), but there appears to be, to my eyes, a opening - circular in shape at the top - through which an MG could have been fitted.

Paul, here is clear photo of side gun arrangement I was writing about -


Z.G. 1 a/c has earlier arrangement (typical for Do 17 Z), side guns in rearmost windows, and all three guns operated by rear gunner.

regards,
p.

[Pawel Burchard]

And by the way... is anyone able to provide details on above a/c from Aufkl.Gr.Ob.d.L.? According to information from ebay auctions the photographs of it were taken on 31.8.1941 in Mal. Wiski near Kirowograd.

p.

[Primoz]

Originally Posted by obdl3945

This is where I would imagine a side-mounted MG to be on a Do17Z, and I am aware of the 'indented' lateral position of the Do217, where the MG was fitted into a recessed area. I accept there is no visible evidence of an MG being fitted in this image (no MG barrel), but there appears to be, to my eyes, a opening - circular in shape at the top - through which an MG could have been fitted.

This is certainly possible. There were Do 215s with lateral guns like this one:
http://www.wwiiaircraftphotos.com/LCBW/Do215-B4-3.jpg

And BTW, judging by the Lotfe bomb sight, the ZG 1 Do 215 is a bomber version (and could thus have more guns than the better known recce version).

[obdl3945]

Gentlemen,

My thanks again to you for your further posts.

Pawel, this is exactly the type of 'Do217 style' side MG position I had in mind. However, I didn't realise it was introduced onto some Do215s, so I have learned something new today. Another great image, too.

Primoz, my thanks also to you for the link to the other Do215 image. I note your valid point about the ZG1 aircraft having a bombsight and also the possibility of carrying the additional side-mounted MGs. The differing style of MG mount in this image is interesting.

Thanks again to you both.

Regards,

Paul

[Pawel Burchard]

And another photograph of (probably) same Do 215 -


p.

[obdl3945]

Thanks, Pawel...

Another excellent photo.

Regards,

Paul