Anyone ever found Luftwaffe Kill Reports?

[MarvinNauman]

Larry,

You are correct... I was unaware. Many thanks for that explanation.

The reason I posted on this form was to hopefully find researchers like yourself that knew the system and had tried really hard to get to the bottom of things. It sounds like you have.

I do appreciate your Claims Link as you never know what I have... in this case I had that and another 2nd source Claims list that was sent to me (that I would have to look up to get again... but some of the information from that 2nd source listed different kill locations (possibily from the different Grid maps that I heard were used at the time)).

Bottom Line:
1. How hard has anyone tried to find Hans Ring and get access to those reports?
2. You say you only found 3-4 Kill reports that I seek. I assume that you mean in general & not from Oct 4, 1943... Right?
3. You say that you have "trawled your way through nearly all of the surviving Luftwaffe records on microfilm and those in paper form at BA-MA Freiburg". In a way this is great news to me because I was hoping to find a researcher that was at that level, knew the system, and had been there. I was even thinking of hiring one of the ones they offer... but if you have already done that, then I would gain nothing. Is that Correct?
4. I'm in USA, I do not know the German system. As I understand it the Germans have several War Museums each housing specific areas of operations/records... i.e. the "BA-MA Freiburg" houses the "Luftwaffe records" among other things... but no other Museum stores the "Luftwaffe Kill reports" I seek. Is that Correct?

As you can tell I leave no stone unturned.
We have uncovered many incredible things in our 7 year search that has also caught the attention of the Dutch Media, and some top WW2 Air researchers and Military Museums that have come to our aid. I am grateful to all. And I am grateful to all who have replied & continue to reply on this form thread.