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Old 11th March 2015, 01:55
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Re: Dornier 17Z F1+FH markings 15th Sept 1940.

Phil/Paul,

For the EoE Project, we're going to do a profile of this a/c. Drawing on 39 images for 1./KG76 and over 600 for the entire Geschwader in our EoE Photo DB, I have the following observations (without looking at all 600 images, but about 150 of those and all 39 for 1 Staffel).

1) I./KG76 a/c had solid prop spinner colors in the Staffel colors. So 1 Staffel always shows as solid white prop spinner, not partially white.

2) The fuselage band just behind the wing roots was in the Staffel color, NOT the Gr color, as in other units (ie. KG2 and 54). So the band on F1+FH is correctly shown as white, which also would happen to be the Gruppe color, but isn't related to that issue. The width of the band varies somewhat from example to example, but I think that you've shown it a little thicker than it should be. It is more typically the width of the main stroke on the "1" in the "F1" Gesch code. That makes it fairly thin compared to the bands on a/c such as even KG2.

3) The underwing a/c code letter would be in black--numerous examples.

4) Top wing code letter "F" should be closer to the wing tips and were also probably be black. I've seen no top wing letters that I could ID as white, red or yellow--they all appear to be black--but this is from a fairly limited statistical sample.

5) Regarding the September tactical "pink" bar, these appear to be specific to each Geschwader that used them, and the only thing that I can confirm is the position of the horizontal bar on the port side, which is visible in the photo. The rectangular bar on the wing appears to be the same on a/c of both I and III Gruppe of KG76, but the photos of examples for this in KG76 are so limited it's hard to define these precisely.

If you have further questions, post them.
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Old 11th March 2015, 04:53
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Re: Dornier 17Z F1+FH markings 15th Sept 1940.

Hi, Larry...

Thanks for your post. I've adjusted mine as it was not as accurate as the information you provided and I felt it best not to have conflicting (and inaccurate) details showing. Interesting to learn about the fuslage bands being Staffel identifiers... noted for future reference.

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