USAAF Pilots Who Scored Victories Over The Hungarian Air Force

[HGabor]

As far as I remember, Archer claimed all of his 3 victories very fast against some returning Bf 109s between Lake Balaton and Veszprém airfield. Since these three pilots were shot down during the landing approach, I think Archer claimed these ones. Other planes (now without the details) were lost during the short upcoming battle near Köveskál, Nagyvázsony, Várpalota and Pét, but their pilots all survived. Cheers,

Gabor

[Edward L. Hsiao]

Gentlemen,

The list doesn't have to be very long. I kind of want to know if there were USAAF fighter pilots with four or more victories against the Hungarian Air Force. I know the USAAF fighter pilots tend to gun down not only Luftwaffe pilots in parachutes but also those from the Hungarian Air Force. A very painful reminder indeed.

Sincerely,

Edward L. Hsiao

[HGabor]

OK, just a few examples with 80-100 % probability:

On June 14, 1944: Király Gyula hdgy. (KIA) 101/2. Sq. Bf 109Ga-6 pilot - (May 10, 1923 - June 14, 1944, mother: Forgács Mária) was shot down by 2Lt. Swanson T. Shortt (14 FG., 49 FS, P-38J-LO, #55) over Ősi.

On June 16, 1944: Szittár Gyula szkv. (KIA) 101/3. Sq. Bf 109Ga-6 pilot - (January 17, 1921 – June 16, 1944, mother: Timár Johanna) was shot down by 2Lt. Chester H. Heien (1 FG., 94 FS, P-38J-15-LO, 42-104267, #64, “Co-Pilot”) at Tab-SW.

On August 21, 1944: Skula Zoltán szkv. (KIA) 101/1. Sq. Bf 109G, 21 yrs old pilot was shot down by 2Lt. Robert H. Brown (325 FG., 318 FS, P-51C-NT, 43-25055, #55) at 10.35AM at Hajdúhadház.

On November 5, 1944: Kiss László hdgy. (injured) 101/1. Sq. Bf 109G pilot was shot down by 2Lt. James D. Callahan (52 FG., 4 FS, ~P-51D-5-NA, 44-13485, "WD-H", "Miss Rogers") at Kisbaba puszta (a farm between Felsőmocsolád and Polány).

Gabor

[Csaba B. Stenge]

Edward,

the list is pretty long, but in many cases it is impossible to determine who shot down who, since there were multiple claims in the same area. There will be a new, expanded edition of my Hungarian aces book, it will contains many examples, when Hungarian aces were shot down by US pilots (mostly by experienced pilots with 4 or more kills, but in three instances, the individual US pilot's sole confirmed claim of the war was a Hungarian ace's aircraft).

[Edward L. Hsiao]

Gentlemen,

Thank you for your whatever information that you could give. As I recall the Hungarian Air Force flew Me-210Cs during World War II. I recall reading a book somewhere that a big formation of Hungarian Me-210Cs were slaughtered by USAAF P-51s over Hungary in 1944. Of course I don't know what were the names of the USAAF fighter pilots that scored kills over Hungarian Me-210Cs. I think the USAAF fighter pilots thought that the enemy planes that were encountered over Hungary were Germans.

Sincerely,

Edward L. Hsiao

[udf_00]

Me 210/410 in action
13 APR 1944 :
RKI (Air Force Experimental Institute) Combat Sqn : claimed 4 B-24 & 2 P-38, lost 4 Me 210 Ca-1.
5/1 Bagoly (Owl, Night Fighter Sqn) : claimed 1 B-24 & 2 P-38, lost 9 Me 210 Ca-1.

82nd FG
http://raf-112-squadron.org/82ndfghonor_roll.html

[Edward L. Hsiao]

Gentlemen,

It was known that John J. Voll,leading USAAF of the MTO with 21 air to air victories to his credit had flown missions over Hungary and had been credited with two Bf-109s shot down. Were they from the Hungarian Air Force or from the Luftwaffe?

Sincerely,

Edward L. Hsiao