Lufttransportgruppe (See) 1

[byron-]

Hello Kris,

You were right with +LJ
Am 20.07.43 wird die Staffel als Seetransportstaffel 1 geführt.
Mitte August 1943 bei der Neuorganisation dem T.G./4 angegliedert. (mit G6+J)
"Ab Ende 12.1943 und bis zum 10.44 in Griechenland mit dem Verbandskennzeichen

8A+AJ, BJ, CJ. EJ, GJ, KJ und LJ und mit dem taktischen Kennzeichen W 1"

regards
Byron

[Rasmussen]

In the flight book Hultzsch are mentioned Ju52 See from Seetransportfliegerstaffel 1 with codes: 8A+AJ, BJ, DJ, EJ, FJ, HJ, IJ, KJ, LJ, base: Phaleron, time frame: April 1944-July 1944. flights to: Leros, Milos, Stampalia, Paros, Navarinon, Kythira and many others

regards
Rasmussen

[Andreas Brekken]

Hi, all

The Seetransportfliegerstaffel 1 was destined for Norway after being commanded away from the command of Luftwaffenkommando Südost between 10th and 20th October 1944.

The unit is listed as being "In Verlegung nach Norwegen" in the strength return of October 20th 1944 and October 31st 1944.

By November 10th 1944 the situation has obviously changed, possibly by the exit from Finnland, and the unit is now listed as being refitting in Dievenow ("Auffrischung Dievenow"), first under direct command of Gen.d.Transp.Flieger - later under Luftflotte 10.

This is also the situation until January 10th 1945, the report ing date for which the last document available to me of this category is dated.

Regards,
Andreas B

[ju55dk]

I'm convinced;-)

Junker

[Adam]

According to RL2, the strength return for 20.12.43 (the only day for which I have notes) was:

- 1 Staffel: 5 a/c serviceable, 3 u/s and 8 crews ready, 3 conditionally ready and 1 unready
- 2 Staffel: 6 a/c serviceable, 3 u/s and 6 crews ready, 1 conditionally ready and 5 unready
- 3 Staffel: 9 a/c serviceable, 3 u/s and 12 crews ready.

All units were equipped with the Ju52. The 1 Staffel had an extra 2 Ju34 See that were serviceable along with two crews that were able to fly them.

The document refers to the unit as: See-Transp.-St. and there are no details provided for a Stab unit in terms of strength return.

[KrisJG3]

Thank you for all comments.

Interested is one thing - code 8A+LJ was wiritten on the side shell as below
8A +LJ with small 8A and big LJ .
Sombody know maker & version Ju52 with WNr. 131 xxx ?
If colour was as LJ - how was painted 8A (colour) ? I think tail rudder code was painted as yellow (late war time) (?)

Here is full list of version;
http://content.wow.com/wiki/Ju_52

[Larry deZeng]

See-Transportstaffel 1
(Unit Code 8A+_J)

Also as:
Lufttransportstaffel (See) 1
Seetransportstaffel Ju 52
Transportfliegerstaffel (See) 1
1. Seetransportstaffel


Formation. (Feb 43)
Formed February 1943 at Travemünde and equipped with Ju 52/3m Wasser floatplane transports. The designation noted in the heading has been selected as primary because it’s the one used in the Feldpostübersicht (Field Postal Directory). Almost immediately after formation the Staffel transferred to the Black Sea, and then in April 1943 moved to the Aegean.

Black Sea, Aegean, Baltic. (Feb 43 - Feb 45)
11 May 43: a pilot belonging to the Staffel was reported KIA by enemy fire at Philiatra (Greece – but not located).
27 May 43: at Athens-Phaleron and remained there until October 1944 - it was used to transport mail, food and personnel to the islands in the Aegean.
29 May 43: Ju 52 shot down between Milos (an island in the Aegean) and Athens, 100%, 3 crew and 1 passenger all KIA.
26 Oct 43: Ju 52 shot down by a fighter between Athens-Phaleron and Staopalia (not located), 100%, crew safe.
13 Nov 43: Ju 52 damaged at Fp. Athens-Kalamaki during a storm, 90%.
16 Nov 43: Ju 52 damaged its floats at Athens-Phaleron while either taking off or landing, 80%.
26 Nov 43: Ju 52 drifted from its buoy in Phaleron Bay and damaged, 30%.
28 Nov 43: Ju 52 crashed while taking off from Athens-Phaleron, 100%, 1 MIA.
19 Aug 44: at Athens-Phaleron.
9 Oct 44: Staffel recorded 2 losses between 20 Sep and 9 Oct - one of these failed to return from a mission and the other was totaled in a landing accident at Athens-Phaleron.
10 Oct 44: Ju 52 floatplane (RG+TS), which had been borrowed from See-Transportstaffel 3, crashed into the sea 100 km N of Crete after all 3 engines quit, 100%, 1 MIA and 3 rescued. According to the rescued survivors, the Staffel had been reduced to just 5 Ju 52s and 6 crews by this point in time.
15 Oct 44: departed Greece on or about this date and transferred to Pütnitz on the Baltic coast, although there may have been some intermediate stops along the way.
Feb 45: at Pütnitz with 15 Ju 52 floatplanes - renamed 3./TG 1 at the end of February.


FpN: (L 52093)


Staffelkapitän:
Hptm. Rudolf Goetze ( ? - Feb 45)



Sources:

1. K.Kössler-Transporter – wer kennt sie schon!: Die Kennzeichen der Transportfliegerverbände der Luftwaffe von 1937-1945:37.
2. BA-MA Freiburg: RL 2 III Meldungen über Flugzeugunfälle…..(Loss Reports – LRs).
3. AFHRA Maxwell: decimal 512.619 British AirMin CSDIC P/W Interrogation Reports in microfilm rolls A5415-18, interrogation CSDIC A.473.
4. BNA HW 5 ULTRA intercept.
5. interrogation CSDIC A.473.
6. AFHRA Maxwell: decimal 512.619 British AirMin P/W interrogations, ADI(K) series, microfilm rolls A5400-05, interrogation ADI(K) 589A/44.
7. Jet & Prop magazine, Heft (issue) 2/1996, p.50.
8. Jet & Prop-op cit.

L.

[KrisJG3]

Thanks Larry

Good photo with Junkers Ju 52 3m(W) LTSta(See) 1 later TG4 (8A+AJ) Mediterranean 1943-01

and second LJ (?)

http://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Ju-52/Trs...n-1943-01.html

so 8A was painted with very small letters not visible on photo.

[Andy Mitchell]

Larry,

Interesting history
Found this on
11 May 43: a pilot belonging to the Staffel was reported KIA by enemy fire at Philiatra (Greece – but not located).

Philiatra
Latitude 37.15 / 37° 8' 59.9994"
Longitude 21.5833333 / 21° 34' 59.9982"
Province Messinia

Possibility?

[byron-]

As always the best Larry,

here some more losses
27.01.44 Ju 52 (8A+GJ, W.Nr. 7126) 100% von Jägern abgeschossen,
11.06.44 Ju 52 (W.Nr. 7143) 100% abgestürzt,
26.09.44 Ju 52 (8A+BJ, W.Nr. 641396) 100% abgestürzt, Ju 52 (W.Nr. 130716) von Nachtjäger abgeschossen
27.09.44 Ju 52 (8A+NJ, W.Nr. 501197) Maschine vermisst,
02.10.44 Ju 52 in Gefangenschaft 10 Km von Kreta geraten,

Filiatra is in the southwest corner of Peloponnes, a little town with 10.000 inhabidants