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Old 31st July 2015, 13:46
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2./NAGR11 W.n. 200452 - july 20, 1944

Hello, i'm looking for infos about a 2./Nagr.11 plane shot down on 20 july 1944, flown by Lt. Kasbar. WHO shot down Kasbar? Some sources says P-38, any confirm? What the complete name of Lt. Kasbar? Thanks
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Re: 2./NAGR11 W.n. 200452 - july 20, 1944

Thanks to the DeZeng/Stankey officer career summaries, we now have the correct name:
KAEBER, Helmut (DOB: 18.01.20 in Berlin) (R, DKG):
05.40 Techn.Offz. 2.(H)/Aufkl.Gr. 13.
05.10.42 Oblt., awarded the Ehrenpokal.
01.06.43 Oblt. in NASt 12/13, trf to Offiziere z.b.V. Ob.d.L. (Sch.Etat).
12.07.43 Oblt., awarded DKG, 12.(H)/Aufkl.Gr. 13.
28.01.45 Oblt., awarded Ritterkreuz, Staka 1.(N)/Aufkl.Gr. 13.
04.45 Staka 1.(N)/Aufkl.Gr. 13.
†16.02.91 in Hattersheim.
Other sources give his first name as Hellmut (two l's).

He was serving with 2./NAGr. 11 on 20 July 1944 and had to bail out of his Bf 109 G-8/R5 (W.Nr.200452, white 3) over Castellarano (RE) after engine trouble.
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Re: 2./NAGR11 W.n. 200452 - july 20, 1944

Thank you so much Nick!!!
Some additional infos on Kaeber Story: he baled out from his plane some km south Castellarano, in partisan area. Quickly captured, he was later exchanged with Mrs. Barbolini, the ancient mother of a partisan leader jailed months before, and two other partisans. This happens few days before the german general attack on the Montefiorino free area...
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Re: 2./NAGR11 W.n. 200452 - july 20, 1944

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Thank you so much Nick!!!
Some additional infos on Kaeber Story: he baled out from his plane some km south Castellarano, in partisan area. Quickly captured, he was later exchanged with Mrs. Barbolini, the ancient mother of a partisan leader jailed months before, and two other partisans. This happens few days before the german general attack oyn the Montefiorino free area...
Mickey, are you saying that Kaeber was given to the Germans for Mrs. Barbolini and 2 others?
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Re: 2./NAGR11 W.n. 200452 - july 20, 1944

Yes, Kaeber was given by the partisan to the germans for Mrs. Barbolini and two other partisans. The exchange was organized by a "high rank luftwaffe officer" and (as in many other occasions) a local priest
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