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Old 28th September 2015, 18:21
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John Landers ground kills

http://www.americanairmuseum.com/person/120391

According to the above site Landers made five probable claims in the Pacific and that four of his kills were in the P-38. The sources I have list his Pacific claims as all while flying a P40E.

He is also credited with 20 ground kills but sources vary on when and where these were claimed. I am certain that the 9 He177 he claims in 16 April 1945 are hus last and that he made other claims on 10 April 1945, the source states 8 destroyed but....

He makes 5 ground claims with 55th FG including 2 Ju88 SW Berlin on a date I don't know. He claims another ground kill on 18 November 1944 while with 357th FG. Therefore his tally is 23 in ETO. Can anyone give more details of the ground claims and/or comment on the details of those gained in the pacific?

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Old 28th September 2015, 22:02
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Re: John Landers ground kills

Confirmed air
PAC :
6 flying P-40E with 9th FS / 49th FG
EUR :
4 flying P-38J with 38th FS / 55th FG
1 flying P-51D with 357th FG
3.5 flying P-51D with 78th FG
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Old 29th September 2015, 01:45
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Re: John Landers ground kills

ETO ground claims were:
May 21, 1944 two 1/2 shares of unidentified aircraft destroyed, 38th FS P-38
August 24, 1944 Two Ju 88 destroyed 38th FS P-51
September 5, 1944 Ju 88 destroyed and unidentified aircraft damaged 38th FS P-51
November 18, 1944 Me 109 destroyed HQ, 357th FG P-51
April 10, 1945 Two Me 109, one each FW 190, He 111, Ju 188 and Ju 88 HQ, 78th FG, P-51
April 16 Nine He 177 destroyed HQ, 78th FG P-51
These are from the Victory Credit Board awards. Total 20 destroyed, 1 damaged on ground in ETO

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Old 29th September 2015, 14:26
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Re: John Landers ground kills

Superb, thanks chaps.
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Re: John Landers ground kills

JD Lander air to air credited by USAF 85 are
6 P-40
4 P-38
4.5 P-51

His ground score VCs per 8th AF VCB dated June 1945
20-1 ground all ETO
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