Identity Liberator loss near Salcioara on 5 April 1944?

[researcher111]

Theo

Historical errors examples.

Stenning crew was manned by 10 and not 8 crew members,according various books
was manned by 9 and 8 , according some Romanian sources all crew were held POW .

Check latest crew status by the crew .

Alex K

[udf_00]

Adding to the confusion :

Oblt. Hans Meyer: 1 Stab IV./NJG6 B-24 Rumania 14.08
...Consolidated "Liberator" am 4.4.44 14.08 Uhr...

The claimant for the bomber near Salcioara is also recorded as Karl Fleischmann.
12./NJG 6 was a romanian unit.

Count only the B-24s claimed by III./JG 77 on 4 & 5 APR 1944.

[Theo Boiten]

I stand corrected: on re-checking the official OKL/RLM confirmed Abschuss listings, I noted that the 10./NJG6 claim at 13.56 hrs and the 11./NJG6 claim at 14.08 hrs indeed occurred on the 4th April 1944. Both claims were officially confirmed as full victories on 15 August 1944 -which leaves the question open as to which bomber losses could possibly be matched against these two confirmed Liberator victories on the 4th of April 1944.

And re. the right spelling of the Nachtjäger who claimed on 5 April 1944 -I also stand corrected (the microfilm entries of individual names are often hard to decipher is my only excuse): the name spells 'Fleischmann' and not 'Furchmann'. Fleischmann, who had previously served with 2./NJG3 and had achieved one confirmed night victory with this Staffel, was KIA on 24-25.12.44 at Langebach near Marienwald/Westerwald, shot down by 157 Sqn Mosquito MM676 (S/Ldr. J.G. Benson & F/Lt. L. Brandon)

Thanks UDF 00 for your pointers -you've not added to the confusion but made the issue more clear now!

Cheers, Theo

[Rainer]

Originally Posted by researcher111

Stenning crew was manned by 10 and not 8 crew members,according various books was manned by 9 and 8 , according some Romanian sources all crew were held POW .

According to MACR4080 the crew of 42-7720 was on 5 April 1944:
Pilot 1Lt Stenning, William C. O-672475 KIA (seriously injured in combat, failed to leave plane)
Co-Pilot 2Lt Robbins, William S. O-743285 POW
Navigator 1Lt Marioles, Peter S. O-801185 POW
Bombardier TSgt Blascke, Robert R. O-2043677 POW
Engineer/Top Turret Gunner SSgt Carroll, Wylie C. 14124042 KIA (failed to leave plane, body found near wreckage)
Ball Turret Gunner SSgt Graham, Robert 32337538 POW
Right Waist Gunner SSgt Bieman, Donald J. 19138322 KIA (seriously injured in combat, did not survive bailing out with a damaged chute)
Left Waist Gunner SSgt Bennett, James M. 15333299 POW
Radio Operator/Gunner TSgt Koenigseker, Aaron L. 15105702 POW
Tail Gunner SSgt Burge, Arthur P. 14104597 POW/DOW (seriously injured in combat, died of gangrene in a hospital at Bucharest on 5 July 1944)