New Me109 Wreck Discovered. ** Some Graphic Content

[Andrey Kuznetsov]

Hello,

I have posted the news in question in the following topic:
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=44975
In the topic the reference to the search group forum topic:
http://iskatelklada.tuapse.ru/forum/...109.html#19952

They try to find the pilot's relatives in Germany (incl. through Volksbund) to return them the pilot's personal property, including the ring. The ring was used obviously by several generations because diameter in rear part was changed. They tried to use ring image to identify the pilot because Bf109’s WNr was discovered later and because Volksbund’s initial identification through Dogtag number was incorrect for some unknown reason.

The search group members thought that Il-2 crashed in the place in question. It was planned to bury the mortal remains of the crew on the memorial cemetery with war honors as usual. But they has found the Bf109.
The rests of the founded German militaries will be buried on Volksbund cemetery probably, as usual.

The some forum members comments with labeling of unknown for them persons as “Russian grave-robbers” are disgusting certainly.

Best regards,
Andrey

[piero]

Originally Posted by Andrey Kuznetsov

Hello,

I have posted the news in question in the following topic:
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=44975
In the topic the reference to the search group forum topic:
http://iskatelklada.tuapse.ru/forum/...109.html#19952

They try to find the pilot's relatives in Germany (incl. through Volksbund) to return them the pilot's personal property, including the ring. The ring was used obviously by several generations because diameter in rear part was changed. They tried to use ring image to identify the pilot because Bf109’s WNr was discovered later and because Volksbund’s initial identification through Dogtag number was incorrect for some unknown reason.

The search group members thought that Il-2 crashed in the place in question. It was planned to bury the mortal remains of the crew on the memorial cemetery with war honors as usual. But they has found the Bf109.
The rests of the founded German militaries will be buried on Volksbund cemetery probably, as usual.

The some forum members comments with labeling of unknown for them persons as “Russian grave-robbers” are disgusting certainly.

Best regards,
Andrey

I also think that some previous comments are too superficial, heavy and rude
Giampiero Piva

[Nick Hector]

Originally Posted by piero

I also think that some previous comments are too superficial, heavy and rude
Giampiero Piva

I couldn't help how this clip made me feel and had no hesitation in stating so. Sorry if that was superficial, heavy or rude.... Call it the truth.

[Brian Bines]

To me a grave robber is someone who intrudes on a formal burial site for financial gain. Again only my opinon but in this case the location was a unknown place of death rather than a formal or registered grave and without the dig the location of the death of this pilot would have remained unknown . Hopefully any human remains found will be treated with respect and given a formal resting place as Andrey indicates. While their methods are described as crude are they not the same methods employed by recovery groups elsewhere . I was more concerned that as shown on other vids of recoveries deep excavations with vertical sides are being entered and undermined at depth without any shoring. With such deep digs those working in them are putting themselves at considerable risk of a possible collapse, sometimes caused by the weight of the digger at the edge of the dig. Without shoring the dig sides should be angled back to reduce the risk of collapse. This would of course result in a much bigger hole and would need a larger digger with a longer arm . I suppose though because there has been no report of any collapse on such digs the risks will continue to be taken . At least it appears that the remains of this pilot will now be placed amonst his comrades in a formal grave . No offence meant to anyone just my thoughts .