German night fighter top aces by plane

[PMoz99]

With you, Russ
Peter

[Nick Hector]

Originally Posted by Russ Fahey

Hello Michael, Nick H., Nick B.,Peter, etc.!,
Unfortunately, the FB doesn't specify what type of Do-215 Schoenert was flying.
Regarding Schoenert's victories, I was only referring to claims that he made, not the "validity" of such.
Jeez, I didn't want to open that can of worms again!
Russ

There's really nothing "can of worms" about it... ... you just have to be able to accept what Nick Beale said earlier. It comes down to being able accept that your childhood/adolescent hero was just a human being

[focusfocus]

Hi guys

And who is the best on Do-17 Z-7 and Z-10 "Kaus"

michel

[knusel]

Hello Michel,

very good question.
And has the top Do 17 nightfighter ace more or less Do 17 kills than Otto Köhnke's 7 ?

Michael

[Nick Hector]

Originally Posted by knusel

Hello Michel,

very good question.
And has the top Do 17 nightfighter ace more or less Do 17 kills than Otto Köhnke's 7 ?

Michael

Ludwig Becker....? Held and Nauroth seemed to think so, even if they are an old source

[Sergio Luis dos Santos]

I´m very curious about victories for the Fw 189 and Fw 58. Konter with the Fw 58 and Scheer on the Fw 189?

[kaki3152]

Slightly harsh. I have found Wikipedia a good starting point to investigate topics, but I would not completely use it as my only source. On certain topics, I have found that Wikipedia does a good job of summarizing the available information and produces a readily available document that has all the available facts. For example, I would consider the Wikipedia article on captured aircraft that landed in Spain during WWII as a good source on this rather obscure subject. It's in Spanish which is OK since I am bilingual.

[PMoz99]

I was expecting a rant like that from you Nick. A pity you didn't contribute anything useful to the discussion. If the Wiki info is not accurate, tell us why instead of just having a rant.
Peter

[Nick Hector]

Originally Posted by PMoz99

I was expecting a rant like that from you Nick. A pity you didn't contribute anything useful to the discussion. If the Wiki info is not accurate, tell us why instead of just having a rant.
Peter

Peter,

I did contribute something useful to the discussion: where to find a photo that lends evidence to the contention that zu Sayn-Wittgenstein flew a Messerschmitt 110. I have no more proof than anyone else that he achieved victories in the type, but that is at least a starting point. I thought your post acknowledged that fact.

As for Wikipedia, I explained why it should not be quoted as a source for serious research. My "rant" as you label it consists of perfectly legitimate reasons why it is objectionable. If you need it spelled out again, here we go:

You cannot quote it if you are a 1st year uni student, if you do, you can expect to fail. knusel has told us several times that he is a scientist involved with pathology. It is perfectly legitimate for forum members to expect a higher standard from him, especially when he has repeatedly been directed away from bad sources and on to better sources during his tenure on the forum.

Other forum members have hinted that he is all ask, and no answer. He "takes" from the forum. What does he "give back"?
Quotes from Wikipedia....?
I also call upon you to note that "Forum" implies "exchange of information"


Peter, it might please you to know that I have contributed to and have acknowledgements in internationally published books. I would not have been offered those opportunities if I had nothing good to say on this forum...
...or had quoted Wikipedia as my source material.

I contend that my objections are legitimate and that being a forum, I have the right to state them. If my objections are not legitimate, the moderators will say so...

[knusel]

Originally Posted by PMoz99

I was expecting a rant like that from you Nick. A pity you didn't contribute anything useful to the discussion. If the Wiki info is not accurate, tell us why instead of just having a rant.
Peter

Good morning Peter,

never mind him. I use to skip his "posts".

If memory doesn't play tricks on me I read somewhere that Wittgenstein flew but one single mission in a Bf110. I'll try to relocate that source.

Have a nice weekend,

Michael