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Another Arctic theatre mystery!
Hi guys
According to the book 'Forgotten Sacrifice' by American author Michael G. Walling, a merchant seaman (one Godfrey Hudson) sailing in Convoy PQ-3, wrote in his diary: "22 November (1941) Stukas [probably meant Ju88s] dived bombed the convoy ... we were in the vicinity of Jan Mayen Island ... They lost two planes and the crews were dead when picked up" The problem is that I cannot find any other reference of such an attack or losses of any type of aircraft or their crews! Can anyone advise/comment, please? Yes, Ed, I have Googled! Do bear in mind that this is a diary entry, and not a reminiscence. Cheers Brian |
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Re: Another Arctic theatre mystery!
I looked at the Luftwaffe in Norway sites loss list and there is nothing this day except a Fi-156 damaged in a landing accident. It could be this man got his dates wrong.
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Re: Another Arctic theatre mystery!
PQ 3
Departed from Hvalfjord November 9, 1941 Arrived Archangel November 22, 1941 Jan Mayen Island is at least 1500km from Murmansk and ~800km from Hvalfjord. Some rough math puts the convoy off Jan Mayen approximately Nov 12. What Luftwaffe activities on the Nov 12 1941? |
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Re: Another Arctic theatre mystery!
Brian. Undoupedly meant skillful googlou fu-ing :-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic...ld_War_II#1941 This seems be the day PQ.3 entered Soviet port (no way it was near Jan Mayen same day!) so Ju 87 R´s are quite possible. Unit VI/LG 1 was up in the North of Norway and Finland. OK, so we look at this period ... http://www.ww2.dk/air/lehr/lg1.htm but almost no Ju 87 candidate from GQM ... (BTW, looking at the originals as many serious Lw. researchers have gotten themselves by now. Hope you credit TOCH! forum "collectively as co-author" of your Arctic Action book !???) GQM in period 10.11. - 10.12.41 (no guarantee there are not more) 20.11.41 Ju 87 R-2 6131 100% Motorbrand Fl.Pl. Kestenga (no injuries) But I seem remember He 115s attacking (some other convoy) near Jan Mayen but Ju´87s had no range for such a stunt. I think we are possibly looking at attempt to dive bomb some arctic convoy but loss (if any) mixed up with other action. Now Christmas just ended here. -Ed |
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Re: Another Arctic theatre mystery!
deleted as not fitting (wrong month)
Last edited by edNorth; 27th December 2016 at 03:40. Reason: error |
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Re: Another Arctic theatre mystery!
Quote:
Isn't that what I already said? Quote:
CONVOY QP 6 Departed Murmansk on Jan. 24-1942, dispersed Jan. 28. |
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Re: Another Arctic theatre mystery!
Yes, but I had not seen your answer and was still working on mine.
Going thrugh GQM files (nothing fitting for Nov 12.) Saw your reply only after hitting enter. |
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Re: Another Arctic theatre mystery!
Hi guys
Thanks for all your comments. As a serious Lw researcher I, also, have copies of Loss Lists, hence my plea for help! Referring to the diary entry, I believe friend Hudson may have made his entries in a pre-printed diary, and therefore entered on the incorrect dates (as suggested). This theory is supported by his first entry (as published): "November 16th. Leaving today. Stormy outside ...." PQ-3 actually departed November 9th! Therefore, seemingly seven days in error, his November 22nd would be November 15th, which would more sense regarding the position of his ship. I will endeavour to make contact with the author for more information. Ed- I always acknowledge TOCH members contributions in my books. Have a happy New Year. Cheers Brian |
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