wreck identification - engine pictures

[harrison987]

Definitely not an 801...as the 801 exhaust outlets were oval...not round.

[harrison987]

WHOOPS!!

Eating my words here...

100% that is a BMW801...night fighter.

Look at the 2nd pic...I thought it was just coral...but those are the flame dampers, as used on the Fw190.

Looking BACK at the first pic...you can see them there too (looked like round outlets)...but those are flame dampers, too.

Mike

[Epinephelus]

Originally Posted by harrison987

WHOOPS!!

Eating my words here...

100% that is a BMW801...night fighter.

Look at the 2nd pic...I thought it was just coral...but those are the flame dampers, as used on the Fw190.

Looking BACK at the first pic...you can see them there too (looked like round outlets)...but those are flame dampers, too.

Mike

Thank you! Yes, flame dampers. These pieces were probably used by both allied and german forces, no?
Pipes of BMW801 were flattened, but those of the wreck seem to be round. We have to check this next time too.

[harrison987]

arg...

I know the BMW801 exhausts were totally round tubes...and then they tapered to an oval/oblong shape towards the end (the last 70cm or so)...

Looking back...these appear to be round all the way.

So scratch the bmw801 idea.

[ClinA-78]

Where did the crash/ditch occured?

ClinA-78

[hervelevano]

Originally Posted by ClinA-78

Where did the crash/ditch occured?

ClinA-78

south of France, not far from spanish border (Port-Vendres area)

[edNorth]

http://legendsintheirowntime.com/LiT...are_p040_W.png

Judging from what others say, I suggest studying this. Only can not find the elevator "horns" and u/c seems gone, if lying upside down. KG 100 and KG 40 flew the type in West MTO, but also others I think.

[hervelevano]

Hi,

Sorry too repeat myself, but does someone know if such flame dampers were only on german radial engines, or were those the same on english aircrafts? Because someone who dived on this wreck years ago is pretty sure it was a british engine, as he apparentely saw english writings on a carburetor...

Thanks,

Hervé

[Snautzer]

rotated for ease of viewing Do217 tail detail

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[hervelevano]

Hi Snautzer,

There is a possibility that that plane is the one who was shot down near Perpignan by allied aircraft while returning owing technical problems from the UGS-40 attack on 11th may 1944.
See this post: http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=49479

See was Nick wrote : The 16 Ju 88s were the losses reported from the attacking force in Luftflotte 3's after-action report (and another seven broke off early with technical problems).

The lost shadower isn't included in that report but in another from Fliegerdiv. 2:
Recce: of the 13 recce aircraft operating from 3 degrees 30 minutes west at irregular intervals, with main emphasis on night recce, only three brought in correct results for conduct of attack, two by day (one P/R) and one by night (with apparatus). Five aircraft broke off task before reaching objective owing technical trouble. One aircraft missing. One further aircraft shot down in sea off Perpignan by Allied aircraft. Remaining aircraft brought back no interpretable results.
If you want to see the ULTRAs that the account in the book was based on, they are KV 3786, KV 3920 and KV 3921. All are on file DEFE3/155 and can be viewed or downloaded free at the National Archives website.