Herbert Kutscha's 8th to 16th Abschuss

[Johannes]

Hi Tim

Many thanks for your thread. I will check why most are missing from the mikro films. There is also a mikro film just for individual pilot, only end of "K's" beginning of "L's" seems to have survived, so Kutscha amongst them, but these abschuße liste are based on what unit information has survived, the 5./SKG 210 data is:-

30th June 1941 I-15 0415 hrs
26th July 1941 MiG-1 1945 hrs
6th October 1941 R-5(R-Z) 0750 hrs

Hope the times match the flugbuch entries.

Kind Regards

Johannes

[Stig Jarlevik]

Johannes/Tim

What is interesting is that the FB does NOT mention Kutscha's claim on 30.6.1941. Also if the FB specifically mentions the claim's number, ie 8 and 9, there is no room for a claim on that date, unless we invent an 8½.

Perhaps the claim listed as 30.6.1941 actually took place on 13.6.1941?
Buschow (Johannes) or Brishova (interpreted by Tim) sounds a bit the same, or...?

BTW Tim, thanks for bringing this to our attention.

Cheers
Stig

[Tim O.]

Hi Johannes and Stig - apologies, it is my typing error and the Flugbuch does put the 8th 'shoot down' on 30th June (not 13th as I originally stated). The writing could easily say Buschow. I attach a scan for reference.

I double-checked the other dates and they are as stated in the Flugbuch.

That now makes a lot more sense I think.

Again apologies for the error.

[Tim O.]

Originally Posted by Johannes

Hi Tim

Many thanks for your thread. I will check why most are missing from the mikro films. There is also a mikro film just for individual pilot, only end of "K's" beginning of "L's" seems to have survived, so Kutscha amongst them, but these abschuße liste are based on what unit information has survived, the 5./SKG 210 data is:-

30th June 1941 I-15 0415 hrs
26th July 1941 MiG-1 1945 hrs
6th October 1941 R-5(R-Z) 0750 hrs

Hope the times match the flugbuch entries.

Kind Regards

Johannes

Hi Johannes

The Flugbuch times up and down for these flights are as follows:

30th June 1941 up at 13:25 and landed at 15:14. The Flugbuch shows a transfer flight earlier in the day but the times make no sense (take off at 16:20 from Rogasnika, landing at 06:55 at Klemensov) and the dates have been corrected (period amendment) so there may be an error here.
26th July 1941 up at 18:00 and landed at 20:10 - fits well.
6th October 1941 up at 07:00 and landed at 08:17 - fits well

[Stig Jarlevik]

Easily forgiven Tim

No worries, I simply correct your data. Thanks for adding times.

Cheers
Stig

PS: If you look again at the 'impossible' time 16.20H you will actually see it is a very sloppily written 0. One can just discern a slight space in between...

[Tim O.]

Originally Posted by Stig Jarlevik

Easily forgiven Tim

No worries, I simply correct your data. Thanks for adding times.

Cheers
Stig

PS: If you look again at the 'impossible' time 16.20H you will actually see it is a very sloppily written 0. One can just discern a slight space in between...

You are correct. Thanks Stig!