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Old 13th July 2018, 22:33
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Re: P-39Q French Airacobra crashed in Switzerland July 1945

First of all let me say thank you to all of you. I assumed that my topic had to be approved first and then I will be noticed but things are going the other way round.

I have answered a few question in the answers already. In the meantime I know a little bit more about this two losses.
The two P-39 Airacobras were of the type P39Q-21 (at least the one with SN 443914). And indeed they belong to GC II/9 Auvergne. I got a report from a Swiss historian where this SN is mentioned, it is a report issued by military command. Searching the web I found a french magazine (Aero Journal, No 39) with a description of GC II/9 Auvergne. There is even a photo with exactly that airplane [big luck].
It belongs to the 1ère Escadrille of GC II/9 and was taken around March 1945. At that time GC II/9 was stationed at La Vallon in the southern part of France not far from the Côte d'Azur
(see photo)

Regarding my model there are two questions: first the color of the spinner? Usually the P39 of GC II/9 had their spinners painted yellow but on the photo the spinner is quite dark so it might also be red.
Second, the aircraft dosen't cary a big number on the front of the fuselage as a lot of the French fighters did. Either it is a bad photo or it really has no number, at least not when the picture was taken.

Even with these two questions open it would be possible for me to build that particular aircraft as a model.

Now let's find all that information about the second P39 too.
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Old 19th July 2018, 12:38
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Re: P-39Q French Airacobra crashed in Switzerland July 1945

Hello Ueli


Maybe a little step forward... Archive of the operational activity of the GC II/9 for that period seems to be located in the box G7956 of the French SHD (Service Historique de la Défense).



I've not found your post on the Aeroforums. Do you remember on which topic you linked it ?


For the spinners colour. I am absolutely not a specialist of markings and colours. But, by comparison with the French roundel and the yellow circle surrounding it, I will also say red or at least reddish.


Best regards / Bis bald



J Schreiber
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Old 19th July 2018, 16:01
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Re: P-39Q French Airacobra crashed in Switzerland July 1945

Is it possible a censor has deleted the number on the forward fuselage?
The poor photo quality also makes it difficult to tell if the rudder is just a paler shade of the camo colour or another colour entirely.
Similarly for the spinner - could be yellow and I certainly wouldn't discount it, maybe red ...... but if you look at the red in the tricolour on the rudder, it's quite dark - looks darker than the spinner.
The roundel on the fuselage also looks odd - maybe not finished and that's why there's no nose number??
Good luck
Peter
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Old 20th July 2018, 11:04
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Re: P-39Q French Airacobra crashed in Switzerland July 1945

Thanks Ueli

Since I am mostly interested in aircraft, I was very pleased to see the second P-39Q s/n being located. Very well done!!

Cheers
Stig
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