Inscription on reverse of photo? Place name?

[Adriano Baumgartner]

Franck I do apologize if I wrote something wrong previously. I did not wanted to be rude or offend anyone here. English nor French are my natural languages, so we tend to think in one's natural one and write (translating) in English. For me particularly it is not a 100% process and I know I do mistakes.

I just pointed some ideas (speculations maybe) onto the thread.

We do not have the first two letters of the code, neither another clue (crewmember's name behind the Picture), neither a date...behind the Picture.

I feel the positive ID is near close to be found...so all elements of the shown Picture could (or should) be checked and maybe could also be discarded...with evidences.

Guess that from the list Ian submitted we do all agree that the December and January losses can be discarded since we do not see snow on the Picture. So, we do have (from his list of machines coded +MT) some 2-3 possible candidates.

Of course, we (I surely don't) know if other machines coded +MT were eventually recorded lost. Regarding "Balti", guess it opened another "road" or field of research, since that machine was not previously recorded onto Ian's list...guess we agreed on that. I wrote "maybe this could be this machine"...I did not jumped conclusions either. You pointed the Yellow Band, so discarding the Trapani machine...so from Ian's list, only two possible candidates now.

Again, if I wrote something that may have sounded personel, please do discard that option. I have nothing against you or no one else on this Fórum and will keep that way.

We all will be very pleased to count on you on the Board and, eventually helping or suggesting new ideas or roads onto this particular thread.

If you want to contact me off board to point out or Exchange ideas, or to inform where I wrote something wrong or maybe offensive into this thread, please let's clear it, ok? Am here to learn, to make friends (have made quite some) and help in my very limitated field of action.

Most sincerely yours,
Adriano S. Baumgartner

[Adriano Baumgartner]

Where you read "...are my natural languages..." understand: "...are NOT..."

[Larry deZeng]

I just tackled the photo with special magnifying equipment and get: G6+MT repeat G6+MT. KGr. z.b.V. 2, 101, 102, 104, 105 and TG 4 all operated Ju 52s coded "G6+M_". Of nearly 200 listed in the Barry Rosch Luftwaffe Codes, Markings and Units 1939-1945 (Schiffer, 1995) book, pages 31-32, he has an +MQ, +MH, +MP, +MR, +MS, +MT, +MU. The G6+MT was a Ju 52/3m and belonged to KGr. z.b.V. 104. Note: nearly all of the code examples given in the Rosch book come from the Gen.Qu. loss reports. During the June - September 1941 period, KGr. z.b.V. 104 was assigned to and operated under Dt.Lw.Mission in Rumänien (DLM) and was variously based at Bucharest and Târgsorul Nou with its Staffeln and individual aircraft operating in and out of numerous other airfields in Bessarabia and eastward to Odessa, Nikolayev and Chaplinka.

I'm not an aircraft person, but maybe this might help some of you who are.

L.

[Ian Jewison]

This is about as good as I can get it.....

[Ian Jewison]

From Dénes Bernád:

ATG-built Ju 52/3m, G6+MT, W.Nr. 2996, set ablaze by MiG-3s of 55 IAP on Balti (Beltsy) airfield, at around noontime of 21 July 1941.
Page 103 "From Barbarossa to Odessa", by Midland Publ, Vol. 2."

/Ian