Air War Above Rzhev - Zubtsov

[kirche]

During this time period Leutnant Johann-Gottlieb Engel of 9./JG 51 was confirmed a Pe-2 (1) at 10:36 as a posthumous victory.

At this time of the 3 VA in the air, there was only one PE-2 (pilot Frolov, 527 BAP), which was doing reconnaissance on the route Belyij-Dukhovshchina-Sychevka-Staritsa - 10.10-13.25. The enemy fighters not seen.
1 VA - 204 BAD did not participate.
10 ORAP and 2 DRAP - no loss.

5 GIAP in this time also not was in the air.
But there is a report which most likely relates to one of the casualties of the fighters of JG51 in the day (Georg Seelmann ?):
210 IAD per period 10.30-11.30 - 6 Yak-1 with bombs (leading major Timofey Kobyilochniy, 163 IAP) - cover Il-2 - bombing of German warehouses in Monchalovo. In the area of Pochigaevo met 2 Bf-109f. Major Kobyilochniy attacked wingman's Bf-109 - the attack is seen, the plane went to the right. Kobyilochniy second attack came at a distance of 40 m to the second Bf-109f. With the first shooting lit it - the plane caught fire, the German pilot jumped out with a parachute and went down in the area of Pochigaevo.
http://etomesto.com/map-atlas_osteur...47&y=56.287416

[Nokose]

Originally Posted by kirche

At this time of the 3 VA in the air, there was only one PE-2 (pilot Frolov, 527 BAP), which was doing reconnaissance on the route Belyij-Dukhovshchina-Sychevka-Staritsa - 10.10-13.25. The enemy fighters not seen.
1 VA - 204 BAD did not participate.
10 ORAP and 2 DRAP - no loss.

5 GIAP in this time also not was in the air.
But there is a report which most likely relates to one of the casualties of the fighters of JG51 in the day (Georg Seelmann ?):
210 IAD per period 10.30-11.30 - 6 Yak-1 with bombs (leading major Timofey Kobyilochniy, 163 IAP) - cover Il-2 - bombing of German warehouses in Monchalovo. In the area of Pochigaevo met 2 Bf-109f. Major Kobyilochniy attacked wingman's Bf-109 - the attack is seen, the plane went to the right. Kobyilochniy second attack came at a distance of 40 m to the second Bf-109f. With the first shooting lit it - the plane caught fire, the German pilot jumped out with a parachute and went down in the area of Pochigaevo.
http://etomesto.com/map-atlas_osteur...47&y=56.287416

Kirche, Did you mean the entire day or just this time period? Even though I did not find them mentioned in the reports, I did find the following for the 5 GIAP on the 3 August 1942:
Guards Mayor Boris Zhurin 5 GIAP while flying a LaGG-3 claimed a Me-109 (5) at Martyukovo. (His last victory claim)

Guards Mladshiy Leytenant Aleksey Luk’yanov 5 GIAP flying a LaGG-3 went missing in action in the areas of Novoye-Semenovskoye, Polunino, Vydrino, Starshevtsy.

[kirche]

Originally Posted by Nokose

Kirche, Did you mean the entire day or just this time period?
5 GIAP on the 3 August 1942:
Guards Mayor Boris Zhurin 5 GIAP while flying a LaGG-3 claimed a Me-109 (5) at Martyukovo. (His last victory claim)

Guards Mladshiy Leytenant Aleksey Luk’yanov 5 GIAP flying a LaGG-3 went missing in action in the areas of Novoye-Semenovskoye, Polunino, Vydrino, Starshevtsy.

Michael,
I told, that in 10.36 (11.36 Moscow time) in the air not was aircraft 5 GvIAP:
4.20-5.35 - 5 LaGG-3 (leading gw.Stlt. Ibragim Bikmuhametov) - no fight;
5.10-6.20 - 6 LaGG-3 (leading gw.Cpt. Ivan Laveykin) - dogfight with 4 Bf-109 in Bahmatovо-Mishino at the height of 2000-2500. Shot downed 1 Bf-109 - attacked from the side-rear and top from a distance of 100-150 m - fell 2-3 km North of Gubino. The second Bf-109 attacked head-on from a distance of 200 m damaged - with a sharp decline and smoke went to Rzhev. The third Bf-109 attacked from above and from the side from a distance of 50-100 m damaged - with a decrease went to Rzhev. 1 LaGG-3 damaged in battle - forced landing in the Kurovo area (Anufriev ? - area Pavlovo?). No names
6.30-7.35 - 5 LaGG-3 (leading gw.Stlt. Piotr Grechnev) - in the area of Deshevka at an altitude of 1000 seen 2 Ju-87 and 1 Ju-88. Seeing the fighters German planes with a decrease in went to Rzhev.
11.45-12.45 - 5 LaGG-3 (leading gw.Stlt. Piotr Grechnev) - in 12.00 4 LaGG-3 bombed Startsevo with heights 2000-1200 in dive (8 AO-25). At 12.30 at an altitude of 2000 dogfight 5 LaGG-3 vs 4 Bf-109 - on bends on both sides. 1 Bf-109 shot down by Grechnev (rear-side attack from a distance of 50-100 m). The enemy aircraft fell near Timofeevo, the remaining Bf-109 came out of the battle with the climb in the direction of Rzhev. Downed 1 LaGG-3 (Lavrenko) - on surveillance crews he jumped out on parachute jump in area Deshevka (Lavrenko 04.08.1942 came back and reported that: during a battle with 4 Bf-109F he rammed one Bf-109F. Enemy aircraft dropped 3 km East Zalkovo. The plane Lavrenko lost control - he jumped with a parachute, the plane crashed in the area Zalkovo. The fact of the RAM is confirmed by ground troops and other pilots from that battle.)
In this battle, could shoot down Leutnant Johann-Gottlieb Engel, only if he continued the flight for another hour and Zal'kovo and Deshevka is North of Rzhev (not Zubtsov, not 47822).
13.18-14.10 - 3 LaGG-3 - In the area of the troops covering fought (Mishino-Zybino) with several Bf-109 - the enemy attacked in pairs, and sought to divert 3 LaGG-3 in the direction from cover. LaGG-3's didn't pursue them. In the area of Borisovo-Zybino at an altitude of 200 fought with 7 Ju-88, 4 Bf-109 - as a result of battle damaged 1 Bf-109f, which with the decrease and the black smoke went to Rzhev. 1 LaGG-3 damaged - put the plane on the airfield Dary.
14.25-15.30 - 4 LaGG-3 - from the height of 1800-1500 bombing from the planning of the convoy in the area of Zhukovo (8 AO-25, destroyed: 1-2 cars, 2-3 carts)
15.00-16.00 - 4 LaGG-3 - was dive bombed enemy troops in the area Pleshevo (8 AO-25, result not seen)
17.35-18.45 - 9 LaGG-3 - was bombed enemy troops in the area Svinino (6 AO-25, explosions of bombs among the enemy trenches)
20.10-21.10 - 5 LaGG-3 - was dive bombed enemy troops in the area Startsevo (10 AO-25, explosions of bombs among the enemy trenches).
In the area of Chentsovo 20.35 at an altitude of 1500 m 8 Hurricane's from behind attacked 5 LaGG-3 - gave a burst of machine guns. Pilot Lukyanov after the attack 8 Hurricane's went to their territory with a decrease.
(157 IAP 256 IAD - 20.10-21.10 - 6 Hurricane's (Lt Ivan Ovcharenko) - support Il-2 - when approaching the target were attacked 6 LaGG-3 - after Ovcharenko came close LaGG-3 stopped the attack.)

Maybe I missed something... Don't know what the flight was lost Popkov, but he came back. Zhurin could bring down or damage the plane in 5.10-6.20 ?