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Old 3rd September 2019, 17:48
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Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

Hi everyone!
Just another DB605A identity with manufacturer to add to the jigsaw.
I have a genuine alloy identity plate that is from an unknown recovery.
Here are the details:
Gerat-Nr 9 605 A 1
Werk-Nr 35404
hsr

The numbers and hsr are stamped into the metal. I estimate that this was a Henschel-Flugmotorenbau GmbH, Kassel built motor and the number would fit approximately into the Bf109G-2 series. Cheers

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Old 3rd September 2019, 21:30
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Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

Finally since I have room to post, here is the front end of DB603 01602842 with the nose case removed, undergoing preservation and prior to assembly for the He219. You can visualize etched 4 digits on the top of the two gears 2842. The upper one is somewhat difficult to distinguish as 2842 due to the scrolling and almost appears to be 2839 but if you study it closer you will see the 2842.
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Old 3rd September 2019, 22:16
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Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

Thank you for posting the pic of the reduction gear housing Tony! Yes, the numbers electro-etched on those bearing components do show the last 4 digits of the engine serial 2842 IMO. The question of the 2826 stamp on the case adjacent to the ID plate remains open. In my experience, re-allocated components on the DB engines had the inappropriate number or part of the number lined through and, the new engine number stamped. I have usually seen this on overhauled or repaired engines. The engine component numbering proceedure applied to nearly all components. Small components often only had the last 3 or 4 numbers and on steel parts, this was often electro etched. Fit tolerance and assembly position was marked on all size-fitted parts. I suspect that that crankcase will also have it's number stamped on the front top area, above the reduction gear housing in this photo, but I can't make it out and, as carefully matched parts all the main bearing caps will probably be stamped with the full engine number.
Overall, I can imagine circumstances where this engine crankcase was re-allocated a slightly later build number, but it is pure conjecture. Also, I really would expect the 2826 number to have at least the "26" lined through and the "42" stamped above. Random stamped numbers like that are unusual.
Thanks very much for posting these pics!


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Old 4th September 2019, 11:38
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Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

Indeed, thank you very much, Tony! Very interesting pictures!
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Old 4th September 2019, 12:13
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Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

In view of the considerable DB601/603/605 production data and information sources on this thread, can I please propose that this thread is added to the "sticky" list at the start so that, further contributions and updates can be easily co-located? Thanks

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Old 18th September 2019, 11:44
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Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

Great to see this thread here as a Sticky!

Members, please donate your DB600/601,603,605 engine data. This thread can act as a great resource. Thanks

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Old 18th September 2019, 15:50
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Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

Yes it is great to see this.

How about this for a new number: A589106 for a DB610.

I believe this is the one in storage at Garber from a He177. There are some instrument panels from the He177 on display at Udvar-Hazy.

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