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Old 18th February 2020, 04:40
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Re: eBay: Allied intrest

Faenor,

Those two Hurricane photos are not of P2573 from 607 Squadron. Many photos of P2573 show it with the engine and front of the aircraft very badly burnt. Some show the individual letter 'K' but there was no unit code on it. Also a fin flash can be seen and the buildings are different.

Based on the partial serial that is visible I suggest it could be one of the following;
P2833 CFF from 17 May 1940
P2873 CFF from 18 May 1940
P2973 Tangmere from 6 June 1940
P3533 CFF from 17 May 1940
All of these were almost certainly replacement aircraft ferried over to France. The dates given as being taken on charge are somewhat suspect in all cases, they could have reached France days earlier or later.
Just because the vendor says it is located in Belgium is not enough proof for me. Most RAF aircraft had a fin flash applied by 10 May 1940 but not every one. If this was a Belgian aircraft it should have a large white two-digit number on the tail.

It would be great if someone can reveal its identity.

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Martin Gleeson.
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Old 18th February 2020, 05:58
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Faenor,

Those two Hurricane photos are not of P2573 from 607 Squadron. Many photos of P2573 show it with the engine and front of the aircraft very badly burnt. Some show the individual letter 'K' but there was no unit code on it. Also a fin flash can be seen and the buildings are different.

Based on the partial serial that is visible I suggest it could be one of the following;
P2833 CFF from 17 May 1940
P2873 CFF from 18 May 1940
P2973 Tangmere from 6 June 1940
P3533 CFF from 17 May 1940
All of these were almost certainly replacement aircraft ferried over to France. The dates given as being taken on charge are somewhat suspect in all cases, they could have reached France days earlier or later.
Just because the vendor says it is located in Belgium is not enough proof for me. Most RAF aircraft had a fin flash applied by 10 May 1940 but not every one. If this was a Belgian aircraft it should have a large white two-digit number on the tail.

It would be great if someone can reveal its identity.

Regards,

Martin Gleeson.
Hi Martin,

there are my information about plane P2573:
11.5.1940 - P/O P.Dixon followed the german plane deeply to the German territory and ran out of fuel.Landed on Belgian airport Tirlemont. Whilst he was searching for fuel, his plane was damaged during the next german air and pilot return to his unit without plane which he left on the airport.

There are some of other photos of the same plane from old e-bay.de auctions:
http://www.modelari.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2539

Plane:
3 propeller blades - probably RAF machine
RAF cocarde - visible on some photos - 100% sure it is RAF plane
On the photo with Ms 406, there are visible squadron codes - AF
location - it is on 99% Goetsenhoven
http://www.belgian-wings.be/Webpages...n_airfield.htm

if you check the photos from the link above - the 3rd digit is on 100% number 5 and the next are 73.

Based on these information, it is on 99,99% % P2573.
Maybe I´m wrong, or we are speaking about 2 different plane - if you want, please send me PM or my e-mail is: Jaroslav.petracek1977@gmail.com.
I´m just the amateur but I´m collecting the photos of Hurricane from Battle of France 1939-1940 (and now start with Battles and Blenheims)

Faenor

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Old 6th April 2020, 16:45
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Hi Martin,

there are my information about plane P2573:
11.5.1940 - P/O P.Dixon followed the german plane deeply to the German territory and ran out of fuel.Landed on Belgian airport Tirlemont. Whilst he was searching for fuel, his plane was damaged during the next german air and pilot return to his unit without plane which he left on the airport.

There are some of other photos of the same plane from old e-bay.de auctions:
http://www.modelari.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2539

Plane:
3 propeller blades - probably RAF machine
RAF cocarde - visible on some photos - 100% sure it is RAF plane
On the photo with Ms 406, there are visible squadron codes - AF
location - it is on 99% Goetsenhoven
http://www.belgian-wings.be/Webpages...n_airfield.htm

if you check the photos from the link above - the 3rd digit is on 100% number 5 and the next are 73.

Based on these information, it is on 99,99% % P2573.
Maybe I´m wrong, or we are speaking about 2 different plane - if you want, please send me PM or my e-mail is: Jaroslav.petracek1977@gmail.com.
I´m just the amateur but I´m collecting the photos of Hurricane from Battle of France 1939-1940 (and now start with Battles and Blenheims)

Faenor
Hi all,

probably same plane like from previous discussion.

See the last photo from this link:
http://www.modelari.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2539

Faenor
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Old 6th April 2020, 18:31
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Old 6th April 2020, 21:14
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Tentative identification:
V6020/OM:W of No 107 Squadron, one of two Blenheims claimed by the 8th (Motorised) Flak Division during the attack on Bremen, 4 July 1941. Brought down at Blockland at 08 06 hrs, the Blenheim is believed to be that flown by Flt Lt Wellburn. (IWM HU25727)

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Old 7th April 2020, 06:35
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Hi Zoran, re post 1053, BCL 1941 by Chorley, give his aircraft as V6193.
A typo maybe ?

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V6020/OM:W of No 107 Squadron, one of two Blenheims claimed by the 8th (Motorised) Flak Division during the attack on Bremen, 4 July 1941. Brought down at Blockland at 08 06 hrs, the Blenheim is believed to be that flown by Flt Lt Wellburn. (IWM HU25727)

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