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Old 10th October 2006, 01:00
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Re: I./ZG 1 claims in 1939 - 1940 - any info?

Hello Eugen,

the claims for Poland 1939 you have listed are coming from my own work published in Poland in 2002 (Luftwaffe nad Polska 1939 cz.1 Jagdflieger, Armagedon). The last update is the following:
1.9.39:
Pilot?, P.24 probable (?), Warsaw, ~17.30
5.9.39:
Pilot?, P.24, Zakroczym, ~13.30
Pilot?, P.24, Truskaw, ~13.30

6.9.39:
Olt. Ehle P.24, Warsaw, 5.15
7.9.39:
?Lt.Spiess?, P.37, Radzymin, ~16.05
Olt.Mölders, P.37, Radzymin, ~16.10
Olt.Ehle, P.37, Radzymin, 16.10


The first victory is my own speculation. On the 5.9. the unit fought with Polish 112 eskadra. The last lost 2 planes, a third forcelanded.
I hoped the Russian archives could reveal more details (?).

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Old 10th October 2006, 22:31
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Re: I./ZG 1 claims in 1939 - 1940 - any info?

Thanks for answer!

I found this info on one of forums... Didnt knew the sources...

Are those cliams the all that I./ZG 1 claimed in Poland?
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Old 10th October 2006, 23:58
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Re: I./ZG 1 claims in 1939 - 1940 - any info?

At all 7 claims, of them 6 confirmed (?).
We have few documents here in Germany regarding I./ZG 1. I hope the Russian archives contain some "captured German papers".

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Re: I./ZG 1 claims in 1939 - 1940 - any info?

Unfortunatly, I have no access to "secret german documents"...
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Old 11th October 2006, 07:43
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Re: I./ZG 1 claims in 1939 - 1940 - any info?

Denmark - 09.04.40
Vaerløse (airfield outside Copenhagen), Lieutenant V.Gotfredsen (pilot) and 2nd Lieutenant G.F.Brodersen (observer), Fokker C.V. M/33 'R.49', appr. 5.20 a.m. (local time). A/C attacked during take off.

According to Tony Wood's Combat Claims & Casualties List, the German pilot credited with this claim is Hptm. Wolfgang Falck, Stab I.ZG 76.

Since this is the only Danish loss, it would be the only claim.

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Re: I./ZG 1 claims in 1939 - 1940 - any info?

THX.

Do You mean this claim?

09.04.40 Hptm. Wolfgang Falck: 7 Stab I.ZG 1 Fokker  Vaerlöse (Dänemark) 06.38 Refer: Williams re. Perry

And according this site http://www.ww2.dk/air/zerstorer/zg1.htm, following Falck's claims must be with I./ZG 1 too?

10.01.40 Hptm. Wolfgang Falck: 5 Stab I./ZG 1 Blenheim  Nordsee: Pl.Qu. 565 12.57 Refer: Williams re. Perry
17.02.40 Hptm. Wolfgang Falck: 6 Stab I./ZG 1 Blenheim  Nordsee: Pl.Qu. Ida-Dora 16.10 Refer: Williams re. Perry

Also, I know only about one additional claim on this period of I./ZG 1:

15.04.40 Uffz. Helmut Eberlein: - 3./ZG 1 Hudson  W. Skaggerrak 15.50 Refer: Prien/Bock re. Perry

And... What about Werner Streibs claim - Blenheim on 10 may 1940? Any info & confirmation?

With Best wishes, Eugen.
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Old 11th October 2006, 23:50
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Re: I./ZG 1 claims in 1939 - 1940 - any info?

Yes, I mean the first claim you mention. That is the only claim of a Danish aircraft at the time of the german occupation on 9 April 1940.

For further info on the airwar over Denmark, I would refer to http://www.flensted.eu.com/

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