German docs in TSAMO

[Franek Grabowski]

Have you found anything interesting from your point of view? For me it was a bit disappointing. I wonder how many of the files do exist in other copies in BAMA.

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by Franek Grabowski

Have you found anything interesting from your point of view? For me it was a bit disappointing. I wonder how many of the files do exist in other copies in BAMA.

Worth it for the 1940 daily sitreps alone. For me at the moment that is the biggest thing but there are other individual documents that I'm finding useful too. Anyone researching the Polish campaign would be very happy, I think.

They may exist in BA-MA but I can read the online ones without spending time in quarantine!

[Franek Grabowski]

Originally Posted by Nick Beale

Worth it for the 1940 daily sitreps alone. For me at the moment that its the biggest thing but there are other individual documents that I'm finding useful too. Anyone researching the Polish campaign would be very happy, I think.

They may exist in BA-MA but I can read the online ones without spending time in quarantine!

There is a lot of stunning stuff for the Polish Campaign, indeed, but much to my surprise it seems that the same KTBs are missing, like I/ZG 1, much to my disappointment. I fully agree, that the ability of viewing them online is a big advantage, though on the other hand, I am crying for OCR search.

Anyway, I was looking for the war over the Channel 1940-1944, and I have found daily reports only, and those seem a big disappointment, at least to me. Only Lfl 3 provided more detailed information through 1940 (have them from another source), the rest is so vague, that it is making it almost useless.

I guess that there is plenty of fascinating stuff for other areas, though.

[Nick Beale]

For anyone interested in JG 5's response to the Lancasters that sank the Tirpitz, take a look at Bestand 500 / Findbuch 12453 - Oberkommando der Kriegsmarine (OKM) / Akte 79: Verschiedene Materialien der Wehrmachtsbehörden in Norwegen.

This includes documents apparently assembled for the post-mortem on the loss of the Tirpitz on 12 November 1944. Among these are transcripts of traffic between the controller and the fighters, reports from observer posts, the ground controller's account of the attack and response and (see attached) a list of which pilots took off, when, and in which aircraft.

[DDT]

Very interesting Nick! Thanks for sharing the documents.

Dirk

[leonventer]

Hi Nick,

Originally Posted by Nick Beale

For anyone interested in JG 5's response to the Lancasters that sank the Tirpitz, take a look at Bestand 500 / Findbuch 12453 - Oberkommando der Kriegsmarine (OKM) / Akte 79: Verschiedene Materialien der Wehrmachtsbehörden in Norwegen.

Very much appreciate you sharing that find -- great stuff!

I've had a long fascination with 617 Squadron, and visited Bardufoss and Tromsø a couple of years ago. It wasn't hard to imagine Ehrler and Dörr taking off in their 109s that morning, and 9. Staffel's 190s waiting next to the sloping runway for the incoming Ju 52 (or Ju 88?) to land...

12 Nov 44 was a very dark day for JG 5, due to a major breakdown in communication and coordination between the Kriegsmarine and Luftwaffe.

Regards,
Leon Venter

[MW Giles]

It is also interesting that the times set out in the two excerpts posted here do not agree

Cannot understand enough German to get from the texts which one is correct or why the difference

Martin

[Andy Mitchell]

Hi,

There has been another new findbuch added Findbuch 12488 - Unterlagen Operation "Seelöwe"

The following may be of interest:-

Akte 103: Unterlagen der OKH-Abteilung Fremde Heere West: Zielraumkarte 11 – Middlebrough-Teesgebiet, Stand 1.9.1940, M 1:50.000


Akte 695: Unterlagen des Koluft beim AOK 16: Vorbereitungen des Koluft für „Seelöwe“, Mob-Kalender und Kräftegliederung für das Unternehmen, Befehle des Koluft u.a.


Akte 551: Unterlagen des Koluft beim AOK 16: Karte der Seenotbereiche und Seenotbezirke der Luftwaffe in der Nordsee, im Kanal und im Atlantik