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Old 6th February 2022, 19:32
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Re: P-38 Loss 11 Feb 44

Ltn. Smutko was hit by 20mm Flak during an low lewel attack at the iron and steel company at Völklingen. The Flak gunners where mostly 15 to 16 year old Luftwaffenhelfer!!
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Old 6th February 2022, 21:38
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Re: P-38 Loss 11 Feb 44

Smutkos a/c came down near Krutweiler, S Saarburg.

Most probably he fell to Hptm. Tratt of Stab II./ZG 26 and 1. and 9./lei. Flak Abt. 976 (o) around 12.50 German time.

Info from BA/MA RL 14/70 (Luftgau-Nachrichten-Regiment 12, 8.Flugmelde-Reserve-Komp.) and the Flak-Report from NARA.

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Re: P-38 Loss 11 Feb 44

Thanks all. The reason why I asked is while sorting out Alfred Price's material, this abschussmeldung was found. 10 pages plus a map which gives all you want to know about this. No mention of a German aircraft involved and confirms crash was Salzbrunnen im Kammerforst. Pilot, stated as Unterleutnant Lothar Steffen Smutko, was taken to a hospital in Saarburg and after that to an airfield at Eueren
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Re: P-38 Loss 11 Feb 44

Hello,
the crashplace is in the wooden aera of the Kammerforst near "Am Salzbrunnen" A couple of years ago I search the aera and found pieces from the P-38.
Smutko was at the local hospital in Saarburg and then transported via the Airfield Trier-Euren to Oberursel Interrogation Center. I still have a few small pieces from the "Lightning".
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Thanks all. The reason why I asked is while sorting out Alfred Price's material, this abschussmeldung was found. 10 pages plus a map which gives all you want to know about this. No mention of a German aircraft involved and confirms crash was Salzbrunnen im Kammerforst. Pilot, stated as Unterleutnant Lothar Steffen Smutko, was taken to a hospital in Saarburg and after that to an airfield at Eueren
According to his MACR, "Yellow Flight" of 79.FS was bounced by "Me 210", broke up an was told to hit the deck. I assume that Smutko then came across lei. Flak Abt. 976...

There were two P-38 losses (Orr and Smutko) against 5 claims in this area:

Three by Tratt (two confimed), one by Oblt. Richard Philipp (3./NJG 102, confirmed) and the one by Flak Abt. 976.

Salzbrunnen im Kammerforst: correct, this was the crashplace of the P-38. Smutkos chute came down on a meadow near Krutweiler, right on the oppsite bank of the Saar river.

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Re: P-38 Loss 11 Feb 44

Thanks all. Does the MACR for Orr state what shot him down?
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Re: P-38 Loss 11 Feb 44

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Ltn. Smutko was hit by 20mm Flak during an low lewel attack at the iron and steel company at Völklingen. The Flak gunners where mostly 15 to 16 year old Luftwaffenhelfer!!
American Air Museum in Britain ( https://www.americanairmuseum.com/person/146627 ) says the aircraft was flying bomber escort against Frankfurt am Main...

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