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Old 28th October 2006, 22:17
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Re: Italian ANR losses

There were no ANR units operating until 3 January, 1944, when the 1° Gruppo Caccia effected its first interception. After that date also the Gruppo Aerosiluranti started to operate.

Thus, no ANR data about the earlier period is available, simply because there was nothing to report...
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Old 29th October 2006, 02:41
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Re: Italian ANR losses

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There were no ANR units operating until 3 January, 1944, when the 1° Gruppo Caccia effected its first interception. After that date also the Gruppo Aerosiluranti started to operate.

Thus, no ANR data about the earlier period is available, simply because there was nothing to report...
Well, there was no combat loss, but they may have been accidents.
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Old 29th October 2006, 03:53
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Re: Italian ANR losses

During the period October-December 1943 the only reported loss was one S.79 (MM.28203) of Gruppo Aerosiluranti "Buscaglia" crashed near Piacenza on 15 November 1943 during a transfer flight with the death of Ten. Ettore Donati and his crew.

Concerning 1° Gruppo Caccia no losses are reported in that period, mainly because the planes were materially handed over by the Germans on 31 December 1943 only... (cfr. the KTB of Stab./JG 77, translated and published in the excellent site of my friend Nick Beale: http://www.ghostbombers.com/JG77/jg77_02.html).

Concerning eventual other accidents, ending with damages to the aircraft only (and even here, exclusively for Gruppo "Buscaglia", as 1° Gruppo had no planes...), the historical diary of the torpedo-bomber unit has no entries of this kind.

P.S. it is worth remembering here that the ANR had no equivalent to the Luftwaffe Quartermaster loss reports (ObdL Genst. Gen. Qu.6 Abt (1c)) and the only data of this kind can be extracted by diaries, teletype reports and other documents, on a case-by-case basis. A few ANR losses were reported also on the Luftwaffe QM lists of 1945, but these concerned the Bf 109s and by that time the Germans considered the Italian units as operating (in practice, even if not formally) on their behalf and the aircraft "on loan".
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