3 march 1944 Italy

[orso polare]

Hi everyone, can you provide me with the Luftwaffe losses that occurred on March 3, 1944 in Italy during an air combat in Viterbo?
Thank you very much in advance.

[Nick Beale]

Take a look at these pages:

http://www.ghostbombers.com/JG2/1-7mar.html

http://www.ghostbombers.com/JG2/03marchcl.html

[orso polare]

Thanks Nick, do you know by chance the area where the 3 pilots of Bf 109 parachuted?

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by orso polare

Thanks Nick, do you know by chance the area where the 3 pilots of Bf 109 parachuted?

Sorry, no. It would be there if I did. There may perhaps be something in either Erik Mombeek's JG 2 history or Jochen Prien's Jagdverbände series of books.

[Trendle]

Hi,

Only one parachuted. This was Unteroffizier Herbert Treff. He came down near Viterbo in his Fw 190 A-6 # 550929 near Viterbo. The other two were killed -> Feldwebel Werner Kilchling near Viterbo and Feldwebel Josef Merkel near Tuscania, 15 Km west of Viterbo

Fred

[orso polare]

Thanks Fred,
do you have news of the other German pilots shot down that day (Uffz. Walter Sauder, Fw. Herbert Schäfer, Fw. Albert Palm, Uffz. Walter Haas)?

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by Trendle

Hi,

Only one parachuted. This was Unteroffizier Herbert Treff. He came down near Viterbo in his Fw 190 A-6 # 550929 near Viterbo. The other two were killed -> Feldwebel Werner Kilchling near Viterbo and Feldwebel Josef Merkel near Tuscania, 15 Km west of Viterbo

Fred

This is not correct. From 4./JG 2 Uffz. Walter Sauder took off at 11.24 local time on 3 March. He recorded: "Enemy contact with c. 150 bomber & fighter aircraft in the Cassino area. Bailed out due to aircraft damage". This information was shared by Erik Mombeeck who used a copy of Sauder's Flugbuch in his research for his JG 2 history.

Originally Posted by orso polare

do you have news of the other German pilots shot down that day (Uffz. Walter Sauder, Fw. Herbert Schäfer, Fw. Albert Palm, Uffz. Walter Haas)?

I am not sure what you hope to find. We know from American and German sources where the day's combats took place. Anyone who parachuted would probably fall somewhere in that general area, give or take winds and the length of time and man waited before abandoning his plane (at 500 km/h a minute could make a difference of 8 km). To get the exact places they landed would mean finding pilots' letters or diaries or reports from people on the ground (ground troops or civilian authorities for example) if these exist.

[Trendle]

Hi Nick,

of Course you are right!!!I should read my own books more carefully. It`s in there....

Fred

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by Trendle

Hi Nick,

of Course you are right!!!I should read my own books more carefully. It`s in there....

Fred

Reading books is one thing, memorising them all is another!