Experte Bf-109 ID Please? -Horst Carganico (60)? &

[Rob Romero]

Thanks Fran, but acording to my info Alfred 'Loje' Lojewski (2) was only credited with two victories in Spain and the aircraft in question sports 4 victory Bars. Hackl had 4 victorie with 5/JG77 by 27 Jun 40 -could this be him?

Rob

[odybvig]

More info on 5./JG 77 can be found here:

http://www.luftwaffe.no/SIG/1940/JG77/JG77.html

Best
Olve Dybvig

[robert]

Hi,


the "blank" (without motling) camouflage of this plane suggest early stage of war over Norway.
For me it is not a plane of Hackl. Could be Menge or Struckmann. They claimed both their 4th victory on 24.04.40.

Regards

Robert

[fran]

Neither Hackl, Menge nor Struckmann were in Spain with the Tophatters of 2./J88, so falling from listing...
Furthermore, according to Osprey Aircraft of the Aces-Bf109D/E aces 1939-41 book, Robert Menge claimed four Blenheims IV's during the disastrous Aalborg raid on 13 Aug. aboard the 'Black 1'

[Hohentwiel]

Dear all,

please remember that claims of the LC were not listed
with victory bars on tails!

With the best wishes,
Sven.

[fran]

Yes, victories in Spain were on behalf of another airforce of another country, so can not be shown in the own nation abschussbalken.
Regards

Originally Posted by Hohentwiel

Dear all,

please remember that claims of the LC were not listed
with victory bars on tails!

With the best wishes,
Sven.

[Jim P.]

"Neither Hackl, Menge nor Struckmann were in Spain with the Tophatters of 2./J88, so falling from listing...Furthermore, according to Osprey Aircraft of the Aces-Bf109D/E aces 1939-41 book, Robert Menge claimed four Blenheims IV's during the disastrous Aalborg raid on 13 Aug. aboard the 'Black 1' "

While the tophat is indeed associated with Spanish service, I think, in this case, 5./JG 77 also used it as a Staffelbadge.

[robert]

Yes this is staffelbadge.
It started to disappear in August 1940 - perhaps it was connected with changing of Staffelkapitaen.

Robert

[odybvig]

Probably not Menge. His 4. and 5. victory was on the same day
Ofw Anton Hackl is more likely, his 4. was on 17.6.1940

Best
Olve Dybvig