Total number of claims for each Jagdgeschwader

[Stig Jarlevik]

Originally Posted by Johannes

Hi Guys

Firstly my old friend Stig.

I didn't know the purpose of JG 25(by memory one of the claimants was Herbert Ihlefeld, but I do know the JG 50 flew special high altitude Bf109's to get at Mosquitos.

Others, just clumped together obscure units to save time.

Kind Regards

Johannes

Thanks for the explanation Johannes
I always thought both JG 25 and JG 50 were formed for the same purpose.
Mosquito hunting.
I have re-arranged some units a bit....

Cheers
Stig

[Johannes]

Hi Alessandro

!945 claims included, however it's only what I know from flugbücher and Leistungsbücher. Only JG 26/JG 27 known completely. So many, many missing.

Kind Regards

Johannes

[knusel]

Good morning Johannes and Co,

multiplying unit scores with equipment percentages and including the other Axis powers I found that the Bf109 claimed more and the Fw190 less than I thought...

I assume the 354 LG2 kills were mainly scored by I./LG2 ?

Cheers,
Michael

[Marcel Hogenhuis]

Hello Johannes,

Most interesting data, thank you very much for sharing this with us. Regarding the Luftbeob.Staffeln your data sounds convincing and in line with data I have assembled for Luftbeob.St.1 and 3, both established in Venlo late 1943.

Lt. Ludwig Wirtz (not Wurtz ) flew from 'my' airfield Venlo late 1943 and early 1944 before his fatal accident 8th January 1944.

Keep up the good work! Best regards, Marcel

[knusel]

Good morning Gentlemen,

did the JG z.b.V. claim anything ?

Best greetings from Switzerland,

Michael

[Johannes]

Hi Marcel

Thank you for your reply interest and correction regarding Wirtz/Wurtz, I will amend my file.

This is totally what I have on Luftbeo:-

14th October 1943 3./Luft.Beo B-17 Lt Ludwig Wurtz 20km SE Schweinfurt 1700 hrs 6500 metres.
1st December 1943 LBST 7 Halifax( can't read name or rank)2115 hrs
20th December 1943 3./Luft.Beo Lancaster Lt Ludwig Wurtz raum Frankfurt-am-Main 2015 hrs 5200 metres
20th December 1943 3./Luft.Beo Lancaster Lt Ludwig Wurtz raum Kuhl 2030 hrs 5400 metres.
24th February 1944 LBST 7 Halifax Ofw Paul Karsten 20km NNE Stuttgart 2256 hrs 6000 metres.
6th March 18944 2./Luft.Beo Oblt "König" 1417 hrs 400 metres.
15th March 1944 LBST 7 Lancaster Ofw "Kellermann" over the sea 2258 hrs.
28th April 1944 LBST 7 Lancaster Hptm Ernst Wallner 0119 hrs..
29th April 1944 Luft.Beo B-17(Can't read name or rank) 1239 hrs.
14th June 1944 LBST 7 Wellington Hptm Ernst Wallner München/Innsbruck 0020 hrs.
17th June 1944 LBST 2 "Viermot" Lt Paul Fehre 0212 hrs.
17th June 1944 LBST 2 "Viermot" Hugo Fuetscher Rotterdam 0208 hrs 4000 metres.
21st June 1944 LBST 7 B-24 Lt Achim Woeste raum Arno 1242 hrs 3100 metres.
21st June 1944 1./Luft.Beo Uffz Schulz 1145 hrs 2000 metres v.n.e-a.s.m.
4th October 1944 Luft.Beo.Kaatsch Auster Lt Bell 3km SW Charwas 0950 hrs.

Kind Regards

Johannes

[Stig Jarlevik]

What exactly did the Luftbeobachtungsstaffeln do (purpose)?
They all seem to spring out of the NJG, but why were they formed in the first place?
They were all disbanded after a year or less, so obviously not very successful and all seems to have
gone back into the NJG system.

Anyone with more info?

Cheers
Stig

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by Stig Jarlevik

What exactly did the Luftbeobachtungsstaffeln do (purpose)?

Cheers
Stig

They were supposed to shadow a bomber stream and release flares to mark its track so the night fighters could close in.

[Stig Jarlevik]

Thanks (again) Nick

That was a bit surprising. Why invent a new unit nomenclature when they simply could have added
a Staffel to the relevant NJG?

How did these units operate? Separately or were they in fact subordinated a kind of parent NJG?

Cheers
Stig