812Th IAP claimed for Hs 129 in Oct-Dec 1943

[marsyao]

Made one error, actually Cap Pavel Tarasov did not claimed a Hs 129 on Oct 25, 1943, he claimed one on Oct 28, so the correct record should be
Cap Pavel Tarasov claimed one Hs 129 shot down at 9:00-10:00 10/28/43 at Nizhniye Serogozy as his 20th victories

Was there any Hs 129 lost on Oct 28 43 ? and by the way, on the same day, Ml Lt Ivan Maksimov who just claimed a Hs 129 3 days before, was shot down and killed by Bf-109 after he achieved his 5th kills, a Ju 87D, possibly from I//Schl.G

[Dénes Bernád]

Originally Posted by marsyao

Was there any Hs 129 lost on Oct 28 43 ?

I have no information on any Hs 129 lost on 28 October (only 26 and 30 October).

[Nokose]

I have checked the book "HS129 Panzerjager" by Martin Pegg. He had the attack of Oct 23, 1943 listed with the confirmation of 3 victories in the Danielo-Ivanovka area. Listing a HS129 for Fiodorov, Shiskin and Maksimov. Oct 25 has a HS129 shot down by Lt. Maksimenko 3KM west of Akimovka. In the lost table it has only for the 23rd, 8./Rum. Sch. Gr (W.Nr.141271), 13.(Pz)/Sch.G.9 (W.Nr. 140759) and 14./Sch.G.9 (W.Nr 140748). 25th has two 8./Rum. Sch.Gr destroyed. The ones on the 23rd has listing as hit by AA fire. The 25th has destroyed by own troops on emergency landing E. of Kuibyshevo. There is also a listing for the 28Dec43 Fl.U.G. 1 Uffz. Helmut Schuttler crashed and killed at Strichovka. 100% destroyed (No cause). Hope it helps.

[Laurent Rizzotti]

Originally Posted by Nokose

I have checked the book "HS129 Panzerjager" by Martin Pegg.

Sorry to hijack this thread, but I am interested by the book Nokose is talking about for a part of my research. On 18 October 1944 the French pilots of Normandie group flying with the VSS claimed 5 Hs 129 shot down over East Prussia. As 1944 losses are far less detailled than other years due to the lack of primary documents, I was wodering if the book mentionned above was detailling HS 129 use, and possibly losses, during the East Prussia battle in October 1944.

Thanks in advance

Laurent