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Old 30th August 2023, 15:55
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Re: Bf109A,B,C,D in Legion Condor

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Yes, but the Bf109A did not score any kills, did it?
As soon as they arrived, first kill by Günther Lutzow of 2.J/88 on 6 April 1937 in 6-10, Bf 109 A. An I-15 was the first "enemy" aircraft shot down by a Bf 109. The unit went on to down two more I-15s on 22 April.

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Re: Bf109A,B,C,D in Legion Condor

I thought these three April 1937 kills were scored in the Bf109B...
But I suppose, they used the Bf109B from May onwards (?) with Harro Harder becoming the top-scorer of that subtype with 10 kills.
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Re: Bf109A,B,C,D in Legion Condor

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I thought these three April 1937 kills were scored in the Bf109B...
But I suppose, they used the Bf109B from May onwards (?) with Harro Harder becoming the top-scorer of that subtype with 10 kills.
The Berthas arrived in mid-July 1937. I believe Harder made his first kill in a 109 in August '37. His aircraft was 6-36. Earlier kills were in an He 51, from which the unit was transitioning.
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Re: Bf109A,B,C,D in Legion Condor

That's interesting...Günther Lützow is believed to have flown 6-10 until the end of August. That would make him a Bf109A ace with 5 kills in that subtype.
Rolf Pingel might have equalled that score (3-5 kills) but he is known also to have used 6-21, too.
Peter Boddem (2-9 kills) might even have surpassed Lützow but I don't know his serial.

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