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Old 21st September 2025, 18:52
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Re: who shot down Sgt. James McCairns on 6 July 1941?

Rich-send me an email. Nothing to add from Caldwell nor Erik's history of JG 2. Nothing from Wing Leader as this loss was a year after the BofB.......!!
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Old 21st September 2025, 19:22
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Re: who shot down Sgt. James McCairns on 6 July 1941?

An aside, if I may. Wikipedia entries are vetted by no one. Unlike a print encyclopedia where actual names and specialties are listed, anyone can add or subtract anything. To give an example, my company has a Wikipedia entry that is filled with false and misleading information. We made an attempt to submit a revised and accurate entry but it was removed and replaced with the original problematic entry.
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Old 22nd September 2025, 15:07
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Re: who shot down Sgt. James McCairns on 6 July 1941?

Well, this is both to advantage and disadvantage. Quality of printed sources is not necessarily better, but there are some problems with updating Wiki. Also various language versions may differ substantially.
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Re: who shot down Sgt. James McCairns on 6 July 1941?

Franek,

I strongly disagree. Any source produced by anonymous persons is immediately suspect. Print encyclopedias are produced by companies that do fact checking. The publishers must have high standards to maintain their reputations going forward. It can't be any other way.

Wikipedia is a deformed method of passing on knowledge. Without expert review, it cannot be trusted as a print encyclopedia would.

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Re: who shot down Sgt. James McCairns on 6 July 1941?

Oh, you do have authors at Wikipedia, although hidden by nicks, sources are also listed, as well as you can browse history of changes. You cannot see that in printed encyclopedia. The problem is with their QC, some chaos in the articles, no cross check between various language versions, and sometimes, a political bias.

I can assure you I have seen so much pure BS & crap in respected printed books, that I certainly do not consider paper and ink a proof of anything, but a possible use for fish & chips due to lack of printed newspapers.
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