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Old 18th March 2026, 17:56
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Re: Jim Buck Kirksmith

Follow-up to Leendert's post re. hospitalization, Kirksmith may have been one of the 6 wounded (+31 MIA) on his last mission 4 Oct.; 3 B-24s lost from 579BS., 15 damaged. Attacks by single & twin-engine fighters some with rockets.
Incidentally there were several B-24s from the 93BG also, with 44BG component both having returned from detachment to N.Africa.


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Old 20th March 2026, 17:12
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Re: Jim Buck Kirksmith

Any idea who which units attacked the B-24s on 4 Oct 43?
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Re: Jim Buck Kirksmith

Hi James. Seems they were Me109Gs from I./II./JG.11-- "Ciel de Gloire" lists 10 B-24s claimed on the 4th. by JG.11 from this diversion mission; 392nd. lost 3 (and 1 from 44th).
From 392BG... 42-7471 "Filthy Annie", 42-7474 "Satan's Flame", 42-7481 "Whiskers".
471 and 481 collided.


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Old 24th March 2026, 19:40
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Re: Jim Buck Kirksmith

Over the weekend I found the flashdrive I had that had Tonywoods Luftwaffe claims list:

one was by Heniz Khoke whose book "I flew for the Fueher" I have

I checked the JG 11 and USAAF chronology on wiki

JS Helgoland made a claim they were equipted with Me 109Ts And I have notes from the book
"The Sea Eagles" by Francis L Marshall on this aircraft

11 German claims US 4 shot down and 19 damaged
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