Area position codes on the continent 1944

[SES]

Dear Mikkel and Colin,
Thank you for the question and the prompt reply. I have hastened to add your link Colin to the page on my WEB-site, which deals with the grid systems used by the various services of the nations involved in WW II. Please see:
http://www.gyges.dk/reporting_grids.htm
It would be of great value if someone could provide a link to a site, which explains the system used by the Royal Navy.
brgeds
SES
www.gyges.dk

[Mikkel Plannthin]

SES,
I thought that the question might be of interest to you :-)

But as it was a RAF grid, I did not ask you directly.

Mikkel

[SES]

Hi Mikkel,
And a good thing you didn't, I could not have answered, I learned something to-day, now we need the "Merlin" with the RN Grid.
bregds
SES

[Mikkel Plannthin]

Excellent site. I have now tried to convert "M.2441" (http://danishww2pilots.dk/pilotsSort...&sortie_id=270) using the sites "coordinates translater:
Latitude : 49° 40' 51'' N
Longitude : 1° 07' 40'' E

Taking into consideration the impresicion factor given at the site, and that the road may have moved since then, it could be that the convoy mentioned in the ORB as "making east" was heading east along what is at least today the N29.

It might be interesting - just for the fun of it - to take a look at a 1944 map of the area.

Great link.

Mikkel

[rafcommands]

Coastal Command used the RN grid for home waters.

Code changed usually every 3 months but at times of great activity it was altered every 2 weeks. So to decode a position you need to know the exact date it was given.

Code format is WWXX YYZZ where WW & XX are alpha, YY & ZZ are numeric

WW is a two letter code giving the Lat degree
XX is a two letter code giving the Long degree
YY is the Lat minute
ZZ is the Long minute

e.g.
56 30N 002 10W is the decode of

ZGSE 3002 on 4th Sept 1939
HGMB 3002 on 4th Feb 1940
PCLZ 3002 on 4th Sept 1940
NWYQ 3002 on 4th Jan 1944

It was said that the code was generated by drawing letters out of a hat and the random nature supports this.

Regards
Ross

[rafcommands]

ooops

Need to preview before posting.

3002 should read 3010 in each case

Ross

[SES]

Hi Ross,
Thank you for your response. No wonder I couldn't figure out the system.
bregds
SES

Dear Ross,

Thank you for the information. The USAF used the identical system during the SEA War 1960/70. I found this nomenclature describing coordinates for locations 12th TFW F-4C aircraft attacked. Always wondered how this system worked and now I know.

Norman Malayney

[SES]

Originally Posted by rafcommands

Coastal Command used the RN grid for home waters.


It was said that the code was generated by drawing letters out of a hat and the random nature supports this.

Regards
Ross

But where does one find the hat after all those years, i.e. the system must be on file somewhere.
bregds
SES

[Mikkel Plannthin]

SES,
you just need to find the right hat :-)

Mikkel