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Old 2nd February 2007, 11:15
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Re: Ace vs. Ace

In Rudel's autobiography, Stuka Pilot, he discusses being pusued by a Russian Fighter at low level. The fighter crashed, wether shot down by his gunner, or caught in his turbulance in stall/turn. According to Rudel this caused a STRONG reaction on the Russian Radio frequency, and it was later determined that a top russian ace had been lost. This was further discussed here.

http://www.elknet.pl/acestory/shesta/shesta.htm

Not a 100% indication, but suggestive.

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Old 7th February 2007, 14:32
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Re: Ace vs. Ace

Here's another one from WW1: Manfred von Richthofen vs. Lanoe Hawker in 1916
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Here's another one from WW1: Manfred von Richthofen vs. Lanoe Hawker in 1916
i believe,the red barons 11th victory,the red baron had his vickers gun as a trophy and sent home in his room,some might say grusume but the red baron,was a hunter,and ive read his books, and says the trophys hed" kept" were, a memento,of his victorys,and his mum says manfred would cry at times and say i wish it would end,and as saying i dont think i will last very much longer ,this was in march 1918,he was due for some leave,but his duty,was to his country,and his sqn mates,,a true pilot.
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Re: Ace vs. Ace

Rob - more food for thought on 'aces' versus aces form 355FG.

354FS Capt Robert Woody (7 air - 4.5 in one day) shot down a pilot described as very skilled in the Eschwege area in direction of Nordhausen around 1015 which would closely match Otto Wessling from JG3 on 19 April, 1944.

357FS Hank Bille (6 air) and Les Minchew (5.5 air) and Gerald Dix 355HQ (4 air/3 ground) all had claims on 109s in Augsberg/Regensburg/Munich area in big air battle N of Munich in 1320-1345 time frame with a near certaintly that one of them shot down Schwaiger from JG3.. most likely Dix.

Either 354FS Henry Brown (14.2 air) or Norm Fortier (5.83 air) likely shot down Herman Freiherr Kapp-herr GpKdr II./JG3 in Munich area in 1350-1410 timeframe - all on 24 April 1944.

358FS Lt James McElroy (5 air) shot down Lt Ernst Erich Hirschfeld JG300 in a Fw190 and then a 109 on 28 July, 1944 in Merseburg/Naumburg/Erfurt area. (edit thx to Eric Brown)

One of the 357FS pilots Cullerton (5 air/15 ground) Elder (8 air/13 ground) or Bille (6 air/4 ground) shot down Ltn Buschmann JG3 on 16 August 1944 in Hildescheim area.

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