Luftwaffe friendly fire

[cheesey]

Hello Brian.

24th August 1943.

Focke-Wulf 190 A-3.
Wnr.304 (?)
2./NAG13.
Shot down by German flak from Herm island (just east of Guernsey) in error.Oberfeldwebel Arnold Weinrauch killed.Aircraft crashed on Shell Beach,Herm.

Hope this helps?

[Brian Bines]

Brian, a possibility :- at around 0350 hrs on 4th.Sept. 1943 Ltn Baack of 14/KG 2 claimed a twin engined aircraft south of Lincoln . I could not find an RAF loss perhaps someone else can advise on the possibility of a RAF or USAAF loss/damage that ties up . If there is no such loss Ju 88 D-1 7A+LH 430778 of 1(F)/121 failed to return from a flight to England in the early morning of the 4th. crew of Oblt. Lutsch with Oberstltn. Giese Kom 1(F)/123 missing . Only two enemy aircraft were reported as crossing the coast of East Anglia that night , could be a possibility for your friend on friend incidents ? Hopefully someone on this forum may have more info. on this,

Regards
Brian Bines

[Brian]

Once again thanks Brian - I'll keep this incident in mind. And thanks Cheesey - yes, another new one to me.

Keep 'em coming!

Cheers
Brian

[Chris Goss]

Brian (B): If the Ju 88 was claimed 'south of Lincoln', surely it would have come down on land and as far as I am aware, it did not.

Brian (C): Perhaps the lack of responses is due to the immensity of your request. I know of a number of Luftwaffe 'blue on blue' but simply do not have the time to help!

[Brian]

Hi Chris

Perhaps, when I bring over a copy of 'Diver! Diver! Diver! later in the year, you will not only treat me to a lunch but also let me lose amongst your files so that I can dig out the information I require!!

I thought it would be easier for anyone with the odd Luftwaffe friendly fire incident to post it, rather than be specific month by month! After all, those 284 incidents for the period January 1943-June 1944 are 'official' admissions, as far as I am aware, so surely they can't be that secretive, unrecorded or unknown?

The Ju88 loss mentioned by Brian B - it could be that the aircraft was attacked and damaged south of Lincoln but then made an attempt to get home and came down in the sea.

Cheers
Brian

[Chris Goss]

Brian

Thanks for this. You might be unlucky getting hold of me later in the year unless you happen to be in the Middle East! By the way the Pen & Sword book on V1 missions is out......

In respect of the Lincoln kill, don't forget that the Luftwaffe did not credit damaged only confirmed kills so if it did bimble out over the North Sea, Baack would not have claimed it unless he saw it crash and thus Lincoln would be Nord See!

Chris