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Old 16th August 2007, 13:10
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Re: 19 Squadron RAF ( Mustang III ) losses 17th September 1944

Harper,
Is he still alive? Yes, I could send you a lot more. Please send write me off board ( baumgartner_asv@yahoo.com.br ).
I was tracing down this day´s actions and do have a lot of information.
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Old 16th August 2007, 13:48
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Re: 19 Squadron RAF ( Mustang III ) losses 17th September 1944

Adriano

David Metzler was one of the 65Sqn losses on this date he is buried at Arnhem-Oosterbeek.

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Old 16th August 2007, 14:38
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Re: 19 Squadron RAF ( Mustang III ) losses 17th September 1944

Hi Adriano,An email is on it's way.
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Old 16th August 2007, 20:55
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Re: 19 Squadron RAF ( Mustang III ) losses 17th September 1944

[quote=Steve49;43490]Adriano,

Caldwell puts the location of Uffz Neumann's loss as Kleve;

Hello
According to Namentliche Verlustmeldung Uffz Artur Neumann of 4./JG 26 crashed at "Zufahrtstrasse nach Kleve"
Fw 190A-8 "blue 7" W.Nr: 171535
According to VDK Neumann is buried as unknown at Emmerich!

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Old 16th August 2007, 21:08
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Re: 19 Squadron RAF ( Mustang III ) losses 17th September 1944

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Adriano

David Metzler was one of the 65Sqn losses on this date he is buried at Arnhem-Oosterbeek.

Steve
Hello
17-09-1944
David Metzler crashed at Wehl, recovered after the war!(1946)
F/O Slee crashed at Braamt, buried at Zeddam
Uffz Lang, 7./JG 6 crashed at Drempt 17.00h
Uffz Reuter, 6./JG 6 crashed at Wehl
Braamt, Wehl and Drempt are small villages near Doetinchen in the East of The Netherlands.
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Old 19th August 2007, 13:47
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Re: 19 Squadron RAF ( Mustang III ) losses 17th September 1944

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From my files, F/Lt Eric Stanley Hughes claimed a FW-190 at 1700 hours, W of Emmerich. Other pilots made claims of 3 FW-190 damaged and one Me-109 damaged.

From Shores & Thomas, 2nd TAF, Vol 2, F/O R A B Slee was KIA in SR437. All claims and losses are at 1700, W of Emmerich.

Frank.
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I think that F/L Metzler of 65 squadron was killed in combat with II./JG 6 between 16.45 and 17.00 h (German time!)
F/O slee crashed one hour later and was killed in combat with 5./JG 26
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Old 19th August 2007, 16:05
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Re: 19 Squadron RAF ( Mustang III ) losses 17th September 1944

Gentlemen,

Karl is correct. There are a couple of combats to be identified. Actually 17.9.1944 is one of the more "easier" dates....

1) Around 14.40 hrs (German Time) combat between 4th FG and 8. Staffel of II./JG 26. Bocholt area.

2) Around 14.45 hrs (German Time) combat between 361st FG and III./JG 26. Geldern-Emmerich area.

3) Around 16.45-17.00 hrs (German Time) combat between No. 65 Sqn and II./JG 6. Doetinchem area.

4) Around 17.50-17.55 hrs (German Time) combat between No. 602 Sqn and I./JG 26. Emmerich area.

5) Around 18.00-18.10 hrs (German Time) combat between No. 19 Sqn and II./JG 26 (5. and 6. Staffeln).

The time difference between Allied and German is one hour!

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