The cousins Peterburs

[Jim P.]

Bf 110D-3, 4267, PETERBURS, Ofw. Hans (F)/n.n. (Bf), , 6., SKG 210, , S9+GP, , , 22-Jun-41, WIA due to enemy fire., , Ostfront, Vasco, The Sting of the LW, p.122, , Wysokie, b, F, ,

FW 190G-3, 160370, PETERBURS, Ofw. Hans, 18, II., SG 10, gelbe, C + -, , , 11-Jan-44, KIA due to Luftkampf with Spitfires., RK. 'grüne C'?., Mittelmeer, Obermaier, p.177, , Tommaso, 100%, F, ,

[Franek Grabowski]

Originally Posted by Joe Peterburs

Franek

One of my best friends, Walter Skroback, was of Polish decent (I think). We went through RTU and assignment to the 55th FS together.
Best

Joe

Joe
I will drop you an email, as I suppose moderators would not like going off topic anymore.

[Horst Kube]

Originally Posted by Franek Grabowski

Joe
I will drop you an email, as I suppose moderators would not like going off topic anymore.

Hi Franek, I suppose we all would like to hear more about that topic and I am not sure, moderators and/or public like to shut off public.

Anyway, most of the involved here know the KC Hans Peterburs stories and the Peterburs/Schuck history anyway.

But what is most of interest for me: What happend to your cousin Heinrich "Heinz" Peterburs - which unit/s, a/c did he fly, where and how was his end - why you Joe think, he, Heinrich as a German pilot and you, as an USAF, even could have ever met in the air at the same mission, a.s.o.

Joe, please do not hesitate and keep all of us informed. Best, Horst

[Franek Grabowski]

Originally Posted by Adriano Baumgartner

Hello to all!
About the same topic: distant relatives in different Air Forces, there was a Lt. Nowotny, an ace with 325th Fighter Group ( the same unit of Art Fiedler ) who could be a distant relative of Walter Nowotny ( well known ace of the Luftwaffe ). French ace, but Brazilian born, Pierre Clostermann also seems to have flown in the area where his distant cousin Klostermann ( from JG 300 if my memory do not fail me )...

Adriano
Nowotny is almost such a popular name like Smith, so I would not make such a guess. Clostermann was a son of French Embassy's employee, so I would be rather cautious in calling him Brasilian born, as this may suggest he had some family ties to the country.
But indeed there were more such weird links, one of Polish pilots was reputedly a close relative of Albert Kesselring, that is a big wig!

Originally Posted by Horst Kube

Hi Franek, I suppose we all would like to hear more about that topic and I am not sure, moderators and/or public like to shut off public.

Horst
I am afraid that this makes unnecessary chaos in the thread, and as a German you should appreciate this view.
Anyway, I can assure you that all the information that I gather, are intended to be published or at least preserved and accessible to other researchers.
That said, do you know if Walter Schuck flew a defence mission in Hamburg area in the evening of 9 April 1945?
Cheers

[VtwinVince]

One of our great Mosquito aces, Russ Bannock, apparently had an Austrian cousin named Bahnuck serving with the Luftwaffe, so these stories perhaps aren't as rare as one might think.

[Joe Peterburs]

Horst

Thank you for your input. As you know I have considerable information on Hans, most of it furnished by you. My concern is that all I have been able to find on Heinz is that he flew Bf 109s and was KIA on either the 7th or 8th of April 1945. His units, background and accomplishments are a mystery. I feel sure that we were in the same sky together on several occasions. He was homeland defense and I flew 15 missions into Germany's heartland in March 1945 as well as everyday from the 2nd through the 10th of April 1945.

Joe

[Adriano Baumgartner]

Hello to all!
About the same topic: distant relatives in different Air Forces, there was a Lt. Nowotny, an ace with 325th Fighter Group ( the same unit of Art Fiedler ) who could be a distant relative of Walter Nowotny ( well known ace of the Luftwaffe ). French ace, but Brazilian born, Pierre Clostermann also seems to have flown in the area where his distant cousin Klostermann ( from JG 300 if my memory do not fail me )...

Adriano

[Pawel Burchard]

...appears in NVM Lfd. Nr. 125 as FF Ofw. Hans Peterburs (53565/51) Bf 110 D-3 (4267)

regards,
Pawel

[Adriano Baumgartner]

Hello Franek!
I did not know that NOWOTNY was a very common name ( did heard about some variations such as Nowotni, Novotny as a commom name around the Czech and Austrian border ), this is why I used "could be" a distant relative...On my case, there were some Baumgartner(s) in the Whermacht and flying with the Luftwaffe, however for lack of information, I do not know if they came from the same branch of the family in Switzerland...
You are quite right: Pierre Clostermann was the son of an Ambassy Member, however he IS born at Curitiba, Brazil - and as far as I do know - did have double nationality! He even started to fly on the Airclub of that town, flying Buckers and other airplanes as well as acting as a reporter. Before his death, he was honored by the Brazilian Air Force with the Santos Dumont Medal. I do not know how far distant was his cousin, this one that flew with JG 300 and was killed the same day Pierre flew an offensive patrol on the same area...( do not remember by heart, sorry ).
Please excuse me any mispelling information ( I am writing from memory not checking the books and magazines ).
Yours friend and sincerely

Adriano

[Evgeny Velichko]

Joe - I am in active research of Hans Peterburs's shot down on 24 june 1941, have a trace to VVS docs... I hope soon we will have a picture of this combat as full as possible.