Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum  

Go Back   Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum > Discussion > Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces

Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces Please use this forum to discuss the German Luftwaffe and the Air Forces of its Allies.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10th January 2008, 13:12
F19Gladiator F19Gladiator is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 466
F19Gladiator is on a distinguished road
Re: Karl Ebbinghausen 109E (+)

Quote:
Originally Posted by mmoustaf View Post
Ah! That's it! Thank You very much.
Glad it helped!

Studying the two photos on page 304 in „Jagdfliegerverbände der Deutschen Luftwaffe 1934 bis 1935 Teil 4/I“ closer......
.....I conclude that the second photo also shows <<+-, this time with the II. Gruppe bar visible.

I also noted that <-+- has the 5./JG 26 emblem ("Hans Huckebein" Raven) on the engine cowling but that <<+- seems not to have it.
<-+- at the time was the mount of Lt. Roch, according to the caption, showing 5 victory bars on the rudder.

Referring again to the photos, it is possible that <<+- had a similar yellow top portion of the rudder such as featured on the <-+- on the photo. This is not the case in the profile in "Combat Colours Number 1".
Further, the wing tips of the two aircraft seem to have a light colour - Perhaps white judging from the contrast but could also be yellow as claimed in the caption. Both 109s might have carried the tactical identification markings as described on p. 29 in "Combat Colours Number 1": Wingtip and tailplane markings (White?). According to this reference this practise, as well as the rudder marking (see above), was in use during late August.
Br
Goran
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10th January 2008, 13:53
mmoustaf mmoustaf is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 64
mmoustaf is on a distinguished road
Re: Karl Ebbinghausen 109E (+)

Thank You Goran!
I have written down Your explanations. I hope if Mr. Prien agrees would You mind to send me those photos?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10th January 2008, 16:10
F19Gladiator F19Gladiator is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 466
F19Gladiator is on a distinguished road
Re: Karl Ebbinghausen 109E (+)

Quote:
Originally Posted by mmoustaf View Post
Thank You Goran!
I have written down Your explanations. I hope if Mr. Prien agrees would You mind to send me those photos?
Hi,
Please PM me your email......
Br
Goran
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11th January 2008, 12:55
Andy Saunders Andy Saunders is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: South East England
Posts: 1,353
Andy Saunders is on a distinguished road
Re: Karl Ebbinghausen 109E (+)

Hope this helps.

Under the "White 4" were found the markings worn when this was Ebbighausen's mount. These photos show these markings when they were discovered.

Andy Saunders

Last edited by Andy Saunders; 14th March 2008 at 19:19.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11th January 2008, 15:13
CJE's Avatar
CJE CJE is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Bordeaux (France)
Posts: 1,409
CJE
Re: Karl Ebbinghausen 109E (+)

Hope this can help.

Chris

Last edited by CJE; 28th February 2009 at 08:03.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11th January 2008, 15:17
mmoustaf mmoustaf is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 64
mmoustaf is on a distinguished road
Re: Karl Ebbinghausen 109E (+)

Guys, I'm very happy with the help I had received from Your side. Thank You very much!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
JG51 Bf 109E in USSR? Rob Romero Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 5 5th June 2007 01:16
Bf 109E and He 111 Brettas Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 7 22nd April 2007 17:57
AIR2/8739, Uffz Karl Castens, 16.06.1944. Joe Potter Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 5 14th April 2006 19:27
Karl Patin Robert Forsyth Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 4 12th February 2006 14:40
JG54 info need: Karl Brill & Hubert Muterich Evgeny Velichko Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 6 1st October 2005 02:27


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 12:05.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net