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Old 22nd June 2008, 17:51
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Re: SG10: Is there any sort of written history of this unit?

Ahem.....!

It would likely interest you guys that we are in final negotiation with Ian Allan for our next two volume book:"Ground Attack Units of the Luftwaffe - A Reference Source" (tentative title) which will cover all of the Stuka, Schlacht and Panzerjäger units- it will follow a similar format to our Bomber Units book. It will come out sometime next year.

As for SG 10 we have a mini-history of this unit in our new book: c.7 A4 size pages, consisting of 81 paragraphs, 5,253 words describing what each gruppe did throughout the war.

We hope to do volumes of a number of unit types (but not fighters, Dr. Prien is in the process of totally covering all that). It will depend on sales of the Bomber and the Ground Attack books.

An even longer term project is to compile career histories for all Luftwaffe officers who had held command or staff positions, of all specializations, not just fighters and not just "aces". We are looking for historical significance, not some sensationalistic aspect. So far, we have about 23,805 guys, and eventually it should reach about 25,000. We currently are at 995 pages of info with scores more waiting to be incorporated. Most of the info comes out of assignment orders.

Anyway, we hope this will address some of these neglected areas.


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Old 22nd June 2008, 20:21
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Re: SG10: Is there any sort of written history of this unit?

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It would likely interest you guys...
Bit of an understatement there!

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our next two volume book:"Ground Attack Units of the Luftwaffe - A Reference Source"...

We hope to do volumes of a number of unit types...

An even longer term project is to compile career histories for all Luftwaffe officers...

Anyway, we hope this will address some of these neglected areas.
They certainly will -- thanks for the update. Looking forward to all of the above. Keep up the good work!

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Old 22nd June 2008, 21:44
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Re: SG10: Is there any sort of written history of this unit?

Andy,

I have some interesting details about their activity over Hungary but I'm afraid, now it is impossible to write a really comprehensive and detailed material about this unit. Too much specific materials went missing and the veterans are mostly gone too...
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Ahem.....!

It would likely interest you guys that we are in final negotiation with Ian Allan for our next two volume book:"Ground Attack Units of the Luftwaffe - A Reference Source" (tentative title) which will cover all of the Stuka, Schlacht and Panzerjäger units- it will follow a similar format to our Bomber Units book. It will come out sometime next year.

As for SG 10 we have a mini-history of this unit in our new book: c.7 A4 size pages, consisting of 81 paragraphs, 5,253 words describing what each gruppe did throughout the war.

We hope to do volumes of a number of unit types (but not fighters, Dr. Prien is in the process of totally covering all that). It will depend on sales of the Bomber and the Ground Attack books.


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Re: SG10: Is there any sort of written history of this unit?

My NSG 9 book was obviously too specialist since I'm still having to do the day job!

There is one sense in which writers aren't at the mercy of publishers: get a website and you can write about anything you like. Plus you don't make any money, so it's almost exactly like beng a "real" author!
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My NSG 9 book was obviously too specialist since I'm still having to do the day job!

There is one sense in which writers aren't at the mercy of publishers: get a website and you can write about anything you like. Plus you don't make any money, so it's almost exactly like beng a "real" author!
I'm afraid to say that - bar one or two = APAB (All Publishers Are Bastards). They have you by the short and curlies because they know you want your book published. The gentlemanly publisher/author relationship, of old is sadly now a thing of the past.

Whereas authors do it as a labour of love, devoting inordinate amounts of their own time, money and effort, from experience, publishing houses are staffed by staff who are just doing it as a 9 to 5 job and have no real interest in the subject matter, resulting in mistakes, slovenly work (which the reader automatically assumes is the author's fault).

Unless you are a big name author you will not make money out of having a book published. Chances are, once you assess all your expenses, you will have made a loss. So the only real reason to write nowadays is a passion or labour of love.

Bitter? Yes, probably. But speaking to fellow authors, this is a general experience of many writers and we seem to share a low opinion of publishers.
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Old 23rd June 2008, 17:04
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The gentlemanly publisher/author relationship, of old is sadly now a thing of the past.

Whereas authors do it as a labour of love, devoting inordinate amounts of their own time, money and effort, from experience, publishing houses are staffed by staff who are just doing it as a 9 to 5 job and have no real interest in the subject matter, resulting in mistakes, slovenly work (which the reader automatically assumes is the author's fault).

Unless you are a big name author you will not make money out of having a book published. Chances are, once you assess all your expenses, you will have made a loss. So the only real reason to write nowadays is a passion or labour of love.

Bitter? Yes, probably. But speaking to fellow authors, this is a general experience of many writers and we seem to share a low opinion of publishers.
Sorry to have to quote almost all the message, but I cannot agree more. And it is not simply useless whining, it is a thing tried and tested on the bare skin of many of us... with some scars remaining...

The saddest thing is that those few publishers working like craftmen (or artisans, if you like) have been more and more pushed within the arms of big companies which ends dictating timings, sizes and costs, virtually deciding how a book should be to fall within "cost parameters", notwithstanding if this will need the deletion of "n" pages or photographs, maybe mutilating a work... all usually passing well above authors...

Maybe Nick is right, a nice website could solve all and you won't have your leg pulled when ironic royalties checks came to you...
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Re: SG10: Is there any sort of written history of this unit?

What saddens me is that the ideal time for publishing histories of Luftwaffe units is drawing to a close. The gates are shutting. All those who could contribute from first hand experience have either passed away or are too old to contribute. I know we are at the end of an era and like the era of cheap fuel.......we will never get those times back.

However, we have some fine and honourable authors who will, I am sure, squeeze the orange dry.
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Ps I know what I mean and I hope that you do as well!
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