Bf 109 H in service with 5.(F)/123

[Nick Beale]

The recent thread on the Bf 109 H-1 has prompted me to get organised and post what I have on my website.

There are still lots of gaps in the story but I do have:

• The aircraft's Werk Nummer;
• Where it was converted;
• What engine, boost equipment, camera, radio gear and armament it carried;
• An account by someone who claimed to have flown it;
• What happened to it.

[Peter D Evans]

Great stuff Nick... thanks for sharing this with us

Cheers

Peter D Evans
LEMB Administrator

[Tomislav Haramincic]

Yes, I agree! Simply great!

Thanks,
Tomi

[George Hopp]

After all that testing and work. It's like an elephant giving birth to a peanut.

Wonderful investigative work, Nick!!

With the anti-aircraft people of all nations, the motto appears to be: "If it flies, it dies!" In his book on his Bomber Command experiences, Doug Harvey said that each time a raid was directed to fly over London out-bound on a mission, the AA would fire at the aircraft even though the number of aircraft and their direction should have left no doubt as to who they were.

[Seaplanes]

To Nick: Does your information come from HW5 records at the National Archives at Kew or from the Ultra messages at the same place???

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by Seaplanes

To Nick: Does your information come from HW5 records at the National Archives at Kew or from the Ultra messages at the same place???

From HW5/ and from the CSDIC (UK) SRA reports in AIR40/

HW5/ material is ULTRA, it is the the original deciphered material from which the "Main Series of Reports to Allied Commands" in DEFE3/ were compiled. HW5/ often gives far greater detail.

[Melvin Brownless]

Hi Nick,

Just wondered if you had any further info regarding Uffz Luginger (4./(F)123) KIA on the 01.01.45. Do you by any chance know his first name? I have a photo of him stood by the nose of a Bf 109G of the 4th Staffel in May 1944. However, I cannot find burial details of him on the German War Graves site?

Any help would be appreciated.

Melvin

http://www.aircrewremembrancesociety.com/

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by Melvin Brownless

Hi Nick,

Just wondered if you had any further info regarding Uffz Luginger (4./(F)123) KIA on the 01.01.45. Do you by any chance know his first name?

Maybe but I'll have to search. I have a mass of material yet to digest (indiscriminate use of a digital camera in a National Archive). One thought is that it wasn't 4.(F)/123 by 1 January 1945, it had been renamed as 2./NAG 1.

[Mermet]

Hi all,

In the text from Nick Beale, one can read :

"The new aircraft was Werk Nummer 110073 and was fitted with a pressure cabin, a “DB 605-GS engine” (which Thomas H. Hitchcock identifies as an error for BS)"

DB 605 G was the first designation of DB 605 AM. DB 605 GS was in fact a DB 605 ASM

JCM

[Ruy Horta]

JCM,

Interesting information on the engines, thanks for sharing.

Nick,

Nice work as usual. Always regarded the H as a pink elephant.