Ju88 or Ju188 crashed in Normandy summer 1944

[Eric Larger]

Hi

I will try to find time to scan the xerox copy I have this evenig

This is curious that , in the same area , I cannot find any information on this other aricraft crashed on on 9 August 1944 at Louviers (10 km from the crash site of Ju188 or ju88 )

This is perhaps a Fw 190A-8/R8 crashed on a farm at 23:00 (French policie report) .You can easily recognize the big hole under the wings for the 30 mm empty chutes .

I have the picture at work so I attache then to this post .

Any information is wellcome ; SKG10 claim the los of of machine , this is all what I can find for the moment .

Eric

[Chris Goss]

The only SKG 10 loss on that night was a 3 Staffel machine FW 190 F-8, 581251, Yellow 9 Uffz Georg Köppel Missing near Avranches; possibly shot down by Fg Off D Welfare/Fg Off D B Bellis of 239 Sqn, Ste Quentin, 0020 hrs

Would this match and I would like to know more about the source of the photo as my book on I/SKG 10 is soon to be published and if this is his aircraft, would like to talk about using it?

[Eric Larger]

Hello Chris

The location is just under the straight line between Rosière en Santerre the base of SKG10 and AVranche /Caen Area . This is a possibility I have still evaluated . But What is sure is that the machine was shot down at 23:00 confiormed by the police report .

So would it be possible that there was a 2 hours gap between german/french time and English time ?

The witness ,a woman living in this farm saw the aircraft coming down in flames .

The photo were given to a man I know by the woman ,(at this date a girl) photographed near the aircraft . I have not seen this man since 1 year and , we planned to meet the family to get a better scan of the photos than these ones . But since 2 years nothing happened .

I do not have better quality photos .

I can try to contact him , and try to arrange a visit to the family , but is not near my house , so I have to plan it .

I have a remaining question I cannot solve , the hole seen in the wings is at the exact location of the 30 mm hole for empty chutes (A8/R8) and also near the location of the support of the underwings large tanks .

The damaged leading hedges do not permit to see the canon hole so ...

The underwing crosses are identical to the ones seen under other Fw 190G-8 of the group I know . But the Wnr could have been badly noted .


What kind of machine is it ?

The pilot was found the day after the crash (if my memory is correct) , in woods surrounding the town . He was burried in the cemetary , and perhaps moved after war .

What kind of machine is it ?

St Quentin can be a location near Rosières en Santerre but it is far from the crash site , but there are numerous other towns having this name ...

What is your degree of urgence ?

This all what i can say about this aircraft

Here is the photo of the Ju88/JU188 I was talking about

ALl the best

Eric

[Chris Goss]

Eric
By Aug 44, I/SKG 10 was operating out of Tours. The aircraft looks too clean for an SKG 10 machine-no sign of distemper to tone down the markings. Time difference could be French/British but it tends to be the other way around-European time was later? Pehaps someone can comment on this. For the moment, as there is doubt, I will wait to find out if anyone knows more.
Definetely AP but still too many Ju 88s/188s!

[Eric Larger]

I review some photos I have in French Book , the Fw 190G-8 are not so dirty, perhaps these pictures were taken onn earl days on French Front .


It we consider it is A FW 190A-8/R8 , few units used some in France , my opinion is that is it a machine unserviceable of IV./JG3 base in June at Dreux , ferried later to his home airfield .

Who knows , the pilot is unidentified .

Yes there were a lot of Ju 88/Ju 188 shot down ,The man who gave me this xerox should look at his diary , if he noted the date

Eric

Bonjour Eric,j'écris en Français j'ai moi même la photo avec la petite fille qui vient des archives de Louviers parvenant de Mme Dequatremare rue de Baulieu ou l'avion est tombé.Je sais part des gens qu'elle avait gardée l'élice mais il ma pas été possible sur place de cotoyer avec les gens à la maison.