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Old 1st October 2009, 17:57
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Re: ZG26 24.APRIL 44

Hello Dragondog --

Do you happen to have a casualty list for the III./ZG 26 Bf 110s downed this date?

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Re: ZG26 24.APRIL 44

Nagel georg ltn f t
Zenz josef uffz bf t
Rischke rolf uffz f t
Klaus gottfried uffz bf t
Gaudes johann uffz f/bf t
Plötner olaf fj-uffz bf/f t
Grachornigg konrad oblt f t
Schafforz anton fw bf t

+ ZG1 That day but non-ennemy flight
Diebel gerhard ltn f t
Stille herbert uffz bf t
Voigt fritz oge 2,wart t

+ The ones who belly-landed their plane without injuries

Müller oblt f
Weber ltn f
Riske uffz f
Kaiser/kaser uffz f
Lackinger uf f
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Re: ZG26 24.APRIL 44

Many thanks -- "t" = tot = killed, I assume?

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You assumed good

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Re: ZG26 24.APRIL 44

Don - I sent it along with 8th BC/FC losses and awards about two months ago. Look for it today. It is the April 24 Mission for my new book.

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Re: ZG26 24.APRIL 44

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Nagel georg ltn f t
Zenz josef uffz bf t
Rischke rolf uffz f t
Klaus gottfried uffz bf t
Gaudes johann uffz f/bf t
Plötner olaf fj-uffz bf/f t
Grachornigg konrad oblt f t
Schafforz anton fw bf t

+ ZG1 That day but non-ennemy flight
Diebel gerhard ltn f t
Stille herbert uffz bf t
Voigt fritz oge 2,wart t

+ The ones who belly-landed their plane without injuries

Müller oblt f
Weber ltn f
Riske uffz f
Kaiser/kaser uffz f
Lackinger uf f
Remi- do you have a damage % for the belly landed 110's?

Also, do you have a record of a Ju 88 or Me 410 dwon west of Munich ~ 1420.

Thanks,

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Re: ZG26 24.APRIL 44

No percentage of loss for the belly-landed planes, nd , for the moment no Ju88 near Munich lost that day.

Sorry

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Re: ZG26 24.APRIL 44

I found one that belly landed on Lechfeld after damages causes by air-fight Ju88 3369 of the E.Kdo 262, that day many Air-places were fighted
Crailsheim, Leipheim, Ingolstadt, Eutingen..

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Re: ZG26 24.APRIL 44

Remi - Thank you. that sounds like a match of Pierce's claim (363FS/357FG) of a Ju 88.

Only two fighter Groups were really engaged (combined - 88 Mustangs) the big battle around Munich in which the 1st TF/1st BD was engaged. The 355th and the 357th.

However the 2nd BD B-24s were attacking Leipheim area airfields in trail behind the 1st TF. The 352nd FG had one award of a Ju 52 at Neuburg and the 354th FG also excorting the B-24s got a couple of 109s sw of Ingolstadt.. this was a sideshow to the Augsburg/Erding/Munich/Landsberg and Oberpfaffenhofen batles.


After the 2BD bombed Leipheim, the B-24s turned ne toward Ingolstadt turned to the north then back to the west and were long out of the area as the 1st TF continued east bound. The 1TF flew west near Augsburg Augsburg, then SSE to bomb Erding, then due south to the IP SE of Munich then westbound below Munich to the IP and WNW to bomb Landsberg and Oberphaffenhofen.

I suspect the Ju 88 encounter followed as the 1st TF headed N toward Gablingen before turning WNW for home. The Me 110s engaged when the main body of the 41-A and 41-B Bomb wings were heading for their Landsberg/Oberphaffenhofen targets. They were coming in to attack from the NE and the 362FS/357th intercepted them crossing Munich to the SW.

The LW losses that day were isolated around Wurms (4th FG) initially around 1245, then the majority were all around Munich (355/357FG) from 1320 - 1430.

Thanks again Remi
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