Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum  

Go Back   Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum > Discussion > Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces

Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces Please use this forum to discuss the German Luftwaffe and the Air Forces of its Allies.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 23rd November 2009, 12:45
Schirmmutze Schirmmutze is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 48
Schirmmutze is on a distinguished road
Re: Hans Müller, captured North Africa, ca. May 1943

Hello all, thought I'd bring this thread back to the top.
I'm currently in the process of acquiring this BF109 tail panel, brought home from Tunisia by a US Army 34th Division Veteran. The pilot survived and was taken prisoner. I've only just begun researching but so far I've come up with 2 possible pilots.

2 March 1943, Hptm. Adolf Warmbold of 2.(H)/14 was shot down at 17:10 in combat with British fighters, and taken prisoner near Souk el Khemis. He was flying Bf 109 F-4 Werk Nummer 7517 marked '6 +

25 March 1943, Lt. Hans Möller of 1./J.G. 53 was shot down by anti-aircraft fire north of Beja, and crashed on the road to Abiod. He was taken prisoner. He had been flying Bf 109 G-4 Werk Nummer 15 073, marked 'Black 5 + -'.

As you can see on the label attached to the panel, "near Bizerte" is the location claimed by the vet. Möller's shot down location north of Beja would make it closer to Bizerte than Warmbold's location.

Are they any other possible choices of pilots in the records? Also, can the model of BF109 be determined from looking at the panel? Lastly, it has a bullet hole through it, can the calibre of shell be identified?

Thanks in advance.
Ben
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 28th November 2009, 04:09
Schirmmutze Schirmmutze is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 48
Schirmmutze is on a distinguished road
Re: Hans Müller, captured North Africa, ca. May 1943

Ok, no one is interested so far.

In that case can I ask where I could find accurate info for Luftwaffe BF109 losses for the month of March 43? I've got the OKL report but it's sadly lacking in detail because I've searched the forum and at least 2 a/c were claimed as lost in March from JG77 but don't appear on the list.

I'd really appreciate some help here guys. I'm very excited about buying this item, been waiting a long time for the right one to turn up.

In return, I'm very knowledgeable concerning original TR headgear and would be glad to help anytime.

Cheers
Ben
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Air war over North Africa Christer Bergström Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 13 3rd November 2013 00:34
LW Losses in North Africa Buz Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 2 19th October 2008 10:00
Blenheims in North Africa - squadrons? Mikkel Plannthin Allied and Soviet Air Forces 7 9th November 2007 22:29
Ju 87 Stuka losses - North Africa - 11 April 1943 Adriano Baumgartner Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 0 28th February 2007 14:54
july 1943, Lancasters over north italy micky Allied and Soviet Air Forces 10 21st January 2007 15:56


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 21:20.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net