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Old 13th January 2010, 09:11
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Re: KGr 100 Loss Aug 40

I have not researched the 5 May 40 crash so cannot confirm-nothing in the NVM

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Old 13th January 2010, 12:13
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Re: KGr 100 Loss Aug 40

Chris,

Sorry to be 'late on parade' with a response - pre-occupied with Coastal Command strike losses. I have the following KGr.100 losses currently listed on the night of 14/15 August 1940:

1./KGr.100 Heinkel He111H-3 (6873). Returned damaged after signal flare accidentally ignited inside aircraft causing fire during night sortie to attack Dunlop Works at Birmingham 4.30 a.m. BS Uffz Friedel Dörner baled out and captured unhurt at Balcombe, FF Fw [ ] Kaufmann unhurt, Lt [ ] Seebauer and Fw Adalbert Knier both slightly burned hands. Aircraft 6N+BH 45% damaged but repairable.

1./KGr.100 Heinkel He111H-1. Failed to return from night attack on Dunlop Works at Birmingham, cause unknown. Lt [Oswald] Lochbrunner and three NCOs reported missing but later returned unhurt. Aircraft 100% write-off.

3./KGr.100 Heinkel He111H-1. Belly-landed on beach at Hourtin, north-west of Bordeaux, after night attack on Dunlop Works at Birmingham, cause not stated. Crew unhurt. Aircraft 6N+CH 100% write-off.

3./KGr.100 Heinkel He111H-3. Forced-landed near St Brieuc following night attack on Dunlop Works at Birmingham. Crew unhurt. Aircraft 6N+DL 100% write-off.

They are listed thus in Lw records but I recognise the (slim) possibility of a duplication caused by an up-dated report ?

Steve,

I have the following for the KGr.100 loss on May 5, 1940:

1./KGr.100 Heinkel He111H-1. Shot down by naval AA fire over Evenes during attack on warships in Ofotfjorden and crash-landed west of Bjerkvik, 18 km north of Narvik. FF Uffz Helmut Pflugmacher, BO Fw Oswald Lochbrunner, BF Uffz Werner Schmalfuß, and BM Gefr Feodor Roos all unhurt – later returned. Aircraft 6N+EH 100% write-off.
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Old 13th January 2010, 13:27
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Re: KGr 100 Loss Aug 40

Thanks Peter. Is is possible that 6N+CH was Lochbrunner's as opposed to a 3 Staffel machine as all ? It would be nice to know what exactly happened to him and his crew
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Re: KGr 100 Loss Aug 40

Hi Chris and Peter, thank you for your information. This clears up the id of the 5.5.40 incident.

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Re: KGr 100 Loss Aug 40

Friedel Dörner never had a license for He 111, but for Ju87.
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Old 17th January 2010, 19:07
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Re: KGr 100 Loss Aug 40

Eckart-can you tell us more?
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Old 17th January 2010, 22:38
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Re: KGr 100 Loss Aug 40

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Friedel Dörner had licenses for the JU 52 and JU 87. Efter downshooting he was war-prisoner in UK for ca 1 year, was shipped to Canada with the crew in the book "Einer kam durch", was in Canada for 5 years and at least 1 year again in UK till 1947. Then he came back to Germany. He died in 1969 because of cancer.
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Re: KGr 100 Loss Aug 40

Thanks for the excellent pictures flyvrak, that confirms the incident.
May your superb work continue!

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