German docs in TSAMO

[Andrey Kuznetsov]

As it turned out, T77 contains Lageberichte OKL (in documents of Abteilung fuer Wehrmachtpropaganda) from the beginning of war to 6.Nov.41 (in TsAMO's Findbuch 12452 these reports in Barbarossa time are from 11.Sep. to 9.Nov.41).
I wonder if the other Lageberichte OKL exists (end of 1941 and the rest of war).


Best regards,
Andrey

[RodM]

Hi Andrey,

I believe the Imperial War Museum in England also has duplicates of the Abteilung fuer Wehrmachtpropaganda Lageberichte but they also end in 1941.

Among the other sources of Lageberichte/Tagemeldungen:

National Archives & Records Administration:

RG 242. National Archives Collection of Foreign Records Seized. OKL Lw.FüSt. Ic, ..Vorläufige Zusammenstellung der Bombenabwürfe; Lage- und Tagesmeldungen on OKW, 19 Oct. 1940-14 Feb. 1941, 4376-554 (Parts I and II), Von Rhoden Collection of Research Materials on the Role of the German Air Force in World War II, 1911-47, National Archives Microfilm Publication T-971, roll 40, frames 86-979.

Bundesarchiv/Militärarchiv:

RL 2 II/388. Morgen-, Abendmeldungen, Nachträge, Nachträge zu Schadensmeldungen (Lw .FüSt. Ic Meldewesen). Bd 2: Reichsgebiet, February 1945.

RL 2 II/389. Morgen-, Abendmeldungen, Nachträge, Nachträge zu Schadensmeldungen (Lw. FüSt. Ic Meldewesen). Bd 5: Reichsgebiet, April 1945.

RL 2 II/390. Morgen-, Abendmeldungen, Nachträge, Nachträge zu Schadensmeldungen (Lw. FüSt. Ic Meldewesen). Bd 6: West, February 1945.

RL 2 II/391. Morgen-, Abendmeldungen, Nachträge, Nachträge zu Schadensmeldungen (Lw. FüSt. Ic Meldewesen). Bd 8: West, 1 – 11 April 1945.

RL 2 II/392. Morgen-, Abendmeldungen, Nachträge, Nachträge zu Schadensmeldungen (Lw. FüSt. Ic Meldewesen). Bd 9: Ost, February 1945.

RL 2 II/393. Morgen-, Abendmeldungen, Nachträge, Nachträge zu Schadensmeldungen (Lw. FüSt. Ic Meldewesen). Bd 11: Ost, 5 – 29 April 1945.

RL 2 II/840. Morgen-, Abendmeldungen, Nachträge, Nachträge zu Schadensmeldungen (Lw. FüSt. Ic Meldewesen). Bd 3: Reichsgebiet, 1 - 15 March 1945.

RL 2 II/841. Morgen-, Abendmeldungen, Nachträge, Nachträge zu Schadensmeldungen (Lw. FüSt. Ic Meldewesen). Bd 4: Reichsgebiet, 16 - 31 March 1945.

RL 2 II/842. Morgen-, Abendmeldungen, Nachträge, Nachträge zu Schadensmeldungen (Lw. FüSt. Ic Meldewesen). Bd 7: West, March 1945.

RL 2 II/843. Morgen-, Abendmeldungen, Nachträge, Nachträge zu Schadensmeldungen (Lw. FüSt. Ic Meldewesen). Bd 10: Ost, March 1945.

RL 2 II/844. Morgen-, Abendmeldungen, Nachträge, Nachträge zum Feind- und eigenen Einsatz (Lw. FüSt. Ic Meldewesen). 16 September 1943 – 25 September 1943.

RL 2 II/845. Morgen-, Abendmeldungen, Nachträge, Nachträge zum Feind- und eigenen Einsatz (Lw. FüSt. Ic Meldewesen). 26 September 1943 – 7 October 1943.

[Andrey Kuznetsov]

Thank you, Rod!


So we can only hope that the other timeframes survived the war mostly in the Heeres documents (not a whole Luftwaffe but specific Lfl, Fliegerkorps etc.
I. and IV.Fliegerkorps 1.Apr.-31.Dec.43 are my priority now, but so far the search gives a limited success only.


Best regards,
Andrey

[RodM]

Hi Andrey,

BArch/MA has more Luftwaffe (and even some OKW/OKH/OKM) Lagebereichte under signature RL 2 II, I've only listed the ones I'm familiar with personally.

...and a note for Andy, the OBdL Lagebereicht at TsAMO appear to be the same as the ones listed in the attached PDF document detailing files in BArch/MA RL 2 II (from second page of PDF, beginning Band 1, signature RL 2 II/900)…

Cheers

Rod

[Andrey Kuznetsov]

Thank you, Rod!


Much appreciated.


Cheers,
Andrey

[Moriii]

Hello all,

Some series have been removed from the GDIR website. Don't know whether that's temporary - but a clear reason to make your own copy while it's up.

Moriii

[Mihai Pica]

Hello all, just noticed today that some funds have been entirely deleted ? Does anyone have any clue ?

http://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/ru/nodes/1-fond-500

[ZhekaB]

I've heard that docs without watermarks were deleted. Hope they will return after watermark placing...

[ju55dk]

OKH is back online. Now with watermarks.

Junker

[Moriii]

More items of the 12452 series:


-258 map of Luftgaukommandos
-264 map Germany 16th April 1945
-276 map France June 1939
-282 map France December 1939
-286 Flak map (no date)
-287 map Rumania
-299 Tagesmeldung des Luftflotte 1
-309 map 39-08
-314 map 39-08
-380 to -385 maps of operations on 15th September 1939 (Lagekarte 4)
-400 to -408 maps of operations on 20th September 1939 (Lagekarte 4)
-410 to -414 maps of operations on 24-25th September 1939 (Lagekarte 4)
-429 Luft. 4 Ic messages (Koluft, reports etc.) June-July 1941
-431 Luft. 4 Ic messages (Koluft, reports etc.) July-August 1941
-436 map Ukraine (no date)
-449 Fliegermeldungen LF 5 1942.1.1-6.2
-456 Luftgau 4 map (maybe 1937)
-458 Kriegsglierung d. Luftverteidigungskräfte I Flak, VIII Fliegekoprs, Fliegerfürher Krim August 1942