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Old 15th May 2008, 03:32
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Re: JG3 Victories

Rob, They were possibly heavy damaged and didn't go down at the time to be witnessed. The TB-3's were suppose to have only have been used for transport in the daylight to Keiv but the VVS were losing a lot of bombers trying to stop the Panzers advance to Keiv.
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Khazanov states that on the 26Jun41 that I, II and III/JG3 claimed 26 DB-3 bombers (He used JFV 6/I as reference). He stated that actual VVS DB-3's shot down were 16. He didn't give units, times and locations.
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Re: JG3 Victories

04Jul43
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Lt Ernst-Heinz Loehr 6./JG3
15:30 Yak-1 61154
Fw Hans Frese 4./JG3
15:35 Yak-1 61343 (#20)
Uffz Helmut Liebmann 4./JG3
15:36 Yak-1 61343

No IAP given but confirmed as being loss 3 Yak-7b's of the 5 IAK
(Source: Над Огненной Дугой by Vitaliy Gorbac)
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Re: JG3 Victories

26Jul41
4 I-153's of the 20 & 91 IAP (fighter-bomber mission)
Losses: 1 to flak and 3 to fighters
Capt. M. Kurochkin (Hero of the Soviet Union) MIA

4/JG3
06:34 Lt Karl-Heinz Ponec I-153 (3)
06:35 Oblt Georg Michalek I-153 (16)
06:39 Uffz Werner Lucas I-153 (5)
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Re: JG3 Victories

Dmitriy Khazanov used Dr. Prien's JFV 6/I as one of his sources in his book. He has listed on 15Aug41 that I/JG3 acheived it's 400 victory in which 89 IAP lost a LaGG-3 in the Kiev area.

JFV 6/I has the following listed for the 400th.
Stab I/JG3
Lt Detlev Rohwer
I-153 (24) 17:50 N. of Kanev

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