Help with family research required!!!

[Pawel Burchard]

Originally Posted by edwest

I suggest you contact the Bundesarchiv in Germany here:

with all due respect WASt would be more appropriate

regards,
Pawel

[John Manrho]

True, Pawel. Let her contact the Deutsche Dienststelle (WASt) in Berlin and she will get whatever they have. Indeed a loss on 8.9.1941 with 4 men crew in Ju 88D-1 of 1./(F) 22. Reported missing in Wologda-Salzy area.

Oblt. Horst Harlan, born 5.7.1913, and the Beobachter of the crew, is listed in the Bildlisten of the DRK-Suchdienst.

Regards,

John

[Leendert]

Heather,

There is an entry for what I think is your relative on the www.volksbund.de website: http://www.volksbund.de/graebersuche...DDF936BBCF35B2

If indeed he's the Rudolf Morgenstern of your research, then the date he was officially reported missing was 10.9.41, so just a few days after his plane was lost.

Website says that his remains haven't been brought to a German cemetery, nor could be retraced as yet. They presume he's still buried at/around Pustinia, Russia.

Regards,

Leendert

[John Beaman]

Good job everyone! I was the one who suggested she post on this board after I could not find the loss (wrong date!). Just shows what I told her: the best site on the web! Someone always knows something!

[Leo Etgen]

Hi guys

I am glad that Heather was able to uncover the information on her missing relative, thanks in large part to Remi. However, in order to make some of the jargon more easy for her to understand here are some definitions. If I have made a mistake please correct me.

1./Aufklärungsgruppe 22

• 1st Squadron of Reconnaissance Group 22
  

Ju 88 D-1 "4N+KM/H" (W.Nr. 1269)

• Ju 88 D-1 is the type of aircraft, in this case the reconnaissance version of the Ju 88 bomber
  
• "4N+KM/H" is the identifying tactical code that the aircraft carried
  
• (W.Nr. 1269) is the airframe number of the aircraft

Wolgda-Salzy

• Wolgda-Salzy is the area where the loss occurred

Crew

• Oberleutnant (1st Lieutenant) Horst Karlan was the observer
• Feldwebel (Technical Sergeant) Martin Alheit was the radio operator
  
• Obergefreiter (Corporal) Rudolf Morgenstern was the pilot
• Gefreiter (Private First Class) Willi Joppich was the gunner
  

I hope this clarifies somewhat.

Horrido!

Leo

[John Beaman]

Good idea and post, Leo!

We are all guilty of assuming that anyone who logs on this board knows Luftwaffe stuff.