Dog tag #

[Peter]

Friends,

I have gotten myself my first dogtag wich I think is LW.

My questions are; are the FP# and dog tag # the same?

Is this dog tag# for 3 Nachtflugstaffel (3 Nacht-AufklärerStaffel)? I can't find any Nachtflugstaffel or Nacht Aufkärer Staffel on Michael Holms site. Any information on this staffel is most welcome.

Peter

[John Manrho]

EM Number and FP Numbers are not the same. Please be very careful with acquiring dog tags, the reason being very obvious.

JM

[RT]

I hv found an Uffz. Heinz Josaf with this 58110/ he hv been member of the 3.Nacht Aufkl.st.

Rémi

[Larry deZeng]

So, your FpN 58110 is for a Heer unit, not Luftwaffe.

I have also included information on how to decode the Mobilisationsnummern found on Erkennungsmarken.


Nachtaufklärungsstaffel 3

(Unit Code K7+)

also as: Nachtflugstaffel 3 (Jun 41 - Apr 42)
Nachtaufkl.St. 3 d.Gen.d.Lw.b.Ob.d.H. (Apr 42 - c. Nov 42)
3.(F)/Nacht (short form in use 1942-45)

FpN: L 31545.

Decoding Erkennungsmarken (dogtags):
http://www.dererstezug.com/Erkennungsmarke.htm
Höidal, Jean. Deutsche Erkennungsmarken des Zweiten Weltkrieges (Reihe Uniform und Ausrüstung deutscher Streitkräfte Band 8) (Gebundene Ausgabe).
Höidal, Jean. Deutsche Erkennungsmarken - Von den Anfängen bis heute: Mit den geheimen Codierungen (MOB-Listen) der Luftwaffe.
http://www.amazon.de/Erkennungsmarken-Weltkrieges-Ausrüstung-deutscher-Streitkräfte/dp/3931533409/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1214033294&sr=8-5
http://www.amazon.de/Deutsche-Erkennungsmarken-Von-Anfängen-heute/dp/3931533522/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1214033294&sr=8-1


FpN: 58110:
(12.3.1943-7.9.1943) 2. Kompanie Pionier-Bataillon 33.

L.

[Peter]

Thanks you so much all 3 of you.

First, John, I totally agree with you, dog tag should not be handled casually. I have always stayed away from them for those obious reasons. This one turned up and who it came from and to the extent I could check I think it is OK.

Rémi, It's very nice to have a name to a item in a collection, I am most greatful you were able to provide the name. Do you have any advice to a novice how to continue to get details on Uffz. Heinz Josaf?

Larry, All these reference will give me a lot of oportunities to research this further, thank you!!

Best Regards

Peter

[RT]

For sure many people here would be interested to know a bit more about the E-M if anybody interested to start a report about them ...,
58110 is in that case the E-M not the Fpn, 58109 war worn by a member of a transport unit.
How do you know Peter that 58110 was the E-M of the 3.Nacht aufkl.st. ,?

1.F120 F Ullapool ross+cromarty ROSSHIRE A i, Loch broom Mausfall verorient, JU188D-3 230443 A6+FH 100
The detail for Josaf prisoner that day , I hv just the 58110 for him not his personal number, he was member of the 3.N.a.st. till mai 1944, at that date the unit was disbanded

Rémi