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Old 6th April 2011, 16:31
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Re: Tony Wood's Luftwaffe Eastern front list oddities

Thanks to all the contibutors! A few thoughts...

P-47D Thunderbolts were Lend Leased to Russia, starting in 1944 with some 194 examples shipped through Iran. This claim is just possible though I'd like to know where Polomoye actually is? A Google search was inconclusive

The Mustang claims are a mystery...And three claims! As far as I know the VVS never used Mustangs...

I'd agree with Nick regarding SG-121 is probably SG-151

The NAGr12 claim is interesting because it lists two people, Ltn Haus and Uffz Voss.
Joint claim? Wellingtons flew at night in the MAAF so was this a night fighter sortie using NAGr12 Bf-109s?Dawn sortie catch a late returning Wellington?

I guess we'll never know
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Old 6th April 2011, 20:21
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Re: Tony Wood's Luftwaffe Eastern front list oddities

This claim is just possible though I'd like to know where Polomoye actually is? A Google search was inconclusive

It could be Polonnoje, in Ukraine. It is located at 50.07N 27.30E.

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Old 7th April 2011, 11:19
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Re: Tony Wood's Luftwaffe Eastern front list oddities

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Wellingtons flew at night in the MAAF so was this a night fighter sortie using NAGr12 Bf-109s?Dawn sortie catch a late returning Wellington?

I guess we'll never know
That sortie took off at 1401 hours according to the link.
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Old 7th April 2011, 19:52
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Re: Tony Wood's Luftwaffe Eastern front list oddities

Kaki3152,

The Soviets received 10 Mustang 1s from the RAF in late 41 and early 42. They also acquired 14 later model P-51 from examples left behind by the USAAF after shuttle missions. I don't believe any combat missions were flown.
The P-47s only flew a handful of escort missions in the north with the 15 ORAP. I haven't read anything that suggests they engaged in air combat.
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Old 15th April 2011, 00:20
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July15,1944 2./NAGr 2 Ltn Brutt Mustang 50 82 @ 3600m
Juky 15,1944 2/NAGr 2 Ltn Kruse P-2 (Pe-2?) 50 82 @ 3000m
July 15,1944 2/NAGr 2 Fw. Strobach P-51 Mustang 50 17 @ 3000m
July 15,1944 2/NAGr 2 Uffz Eisenhardt P-51 Mustang 50 61 @ 4000m
2./NAGr 2 was based in / near Lemberg = Lvov on that day*, so they definitely did not fight in Rumania. I propose a misidentification by all these pilots, maybe it was all in one common sortie? I.e. Yak-9's don't look so much different from Mustangs: bubbletop canopy and belly-cooler.

* : See here: http://ww2.dk/air/recon/nagr2.htm
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Old 15th April 2011, 09:14
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Re: Tony Wood's Luftwaffe Eastern front list oddities

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Thanks to all the contibutors! A few thoughts...

P-47D Thunderbolts were Lend Leased to Russia, starting in 1944 with some 194 examples shipped through Iran. This claim is just possible though I'd like to know where Polomoye actually is? A Google search was inconclusive

The Mustang claims are a mystery...And three claims! As far as I know the VVS never used Mustangs...

I'd agree with Nick regarding SG-121 is probably SG-151

The NAGr12 claim is interesting because it lists two people, Ltn Haus and Uffz Voss.
Joint claim? Wellingtons flew at night in the MAAF so was this a night fighter sortie using NAGr12 Bf-109s?Dawn sortie catch a late returning Wellington?

I guess we'll never know
Mustangs were used to very little extent. 4 of them were received on Land lease programm. They were "Mustang I" handled by British authorities. Their numbers are: AG 348, 352, 353, 354. One went on testing to NII VVS and three others were sent to 3 VA. Combat experience was the only mission flown on September 13, 1942, escort for Sturmovicks, no contact with enemy.
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