Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum  

Go Back   Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum > Discussion > Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces
Reload this Page Luftwaffe losses, Kiev, 6.11.1943, asking for help.
FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces Please use this forum to discuss the German Luftwaffe and the Air Forces of its Allies.

Reply
Page 2 of 3 < 1 2 3 >
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 5th September 2011, 18:05
Evgeny Velichko's Avatar
Evgeny Velichko Evgeny Velichko is offline
Alter Hase
  
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Stalingrad
Posts: 1,289
Evgeny Velichko is on a distinguished road
Re: Luftwaffe losses, Kiev, 6.11.1943, asking for help.
Gents, is this loss report is correct?

Quote:
Ju 87D-3, 110486, 8./St.G. 3, MIA with crew on 6.11.43 due to Flak. Pl.Qu 01 582
__________________
Went to war.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 5th September 2011, 20:47
Matti Salonen Matti Salonen is offline
Alter Hase
  
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Tampere, Finland
Posts: 3,242
Matti Salonen will become famous soon enoughMatti Salonen will become famous soon enough
Re: Luftwaffe losses, Kiev, 6.11.1943, asking for help.
I think, that it is not correct. Quite possible, that this is it, whose location in NVM is also Pl.Qu 01582:
1943-11-06, 9./Schl.G 77, Ju 87D-3, 110872, S2+KT, 3 km nördlich Maljutjanka. Notlandung infolge Flakbeschuß. Bruch 100 %.
F Lt Saul, Werner, vermißt
Bf Uffz Richter, Dieter, vermißt
Also:
1943-09-06, 8./St.G 3, Ju 87D-3, 110486, Fl.Pl. Smolensk-Nord, Bruchlandung. Bruch 40 %.
Maybe this was still under repair in November?

Matti
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 6th September 2011, 10:47
Andreas Brekken's Avatar
Andreas Brekken Andreas Brekken is offline
Alter Hase
  
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Aurskog, Norway
Posts: 1,494
Andreas Brekken is on a distinguished road
Re: Luftwaffe losses, Kiev, 6.11.1943, asking for help.
Hi.

Here is that last record as it is in the GenQu list - I just checked it for any typos in the database:

http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=104861

Regards,
Andreas B
__________________
Ahhh... but I have seen the holy grail! And it is painted RLM 76 all over with a large Mickey Mouse on the side, there is a familiar pilot in front of it and it has an Erla Haube!
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 6th September 2011, 13:32
Evgeny Velichko's Avatar
Evgeny Velichko Evgeny Velichko is offline
Alter Hase
  
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Stalingrad
Posts: 1,289
Evgeny Velichko is on a distinguished road
Re: Luftwaffe losses, Kiev, 6.11.1943, asking for help.
Ok, gentlmen, thank You very much.

And last question - were there any Fw190 losses? Aksing about II./JG54 and II./SG2 mainly...
__________________
Went to war.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 6th September 2011, 14:57
Matti Salonen Matti Salonen is offline
Alter Hase
  
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Tampere, Finland
Posts: 3,242
Matti Salonen will become famous soon enoughMatti Salonen will become famous soon enough
Re: Luftwaffe losses, Kiev, 6.11.1943, asking for help.
None in my database.

Matti
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 6th September 2011, 20:28
Andreas Brekken's Avatar
Andreas Brekken Andreas Brekken is offline
Alter Hase
  
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Aurskog, Norway
Posts: 1,494
Andreas Brekken is on a distinguished road
Re: Luftwaffe losses, Kiev, 6.11.1943, asking for help.
I cannot find any either.

Regards,
Andreas B
__________________
Ahhh... but I have seen the holy grail! And it is painted RLM 76 all over with a large Mickey Mouse on the side, there is a familiar pilot in front of it and it has an Erla Haube!
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 7th September 2011, 10:58
yogybär yogybär is offline
Senior Member
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: ER.DE
Posts: 615
yogybär is on a distinguished road
Re: Luftwaffe losses, Kiev, 6.11.1943, asking for help.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Evgeny Velichko View Post
were there any Fw190 losses?
Why do you ask? Did Rudorffer claim LaGG-5's ?
__________________
Liebe Grüsse, yogy
http://www.yogysoft.de
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 7th September 2011, 11:52
Andreas Brekken's Avatar
Andreas Brekken Andreas Brekken is offline
Alter Hase
  
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Aurskog, Norway
Posts: 1,494
Andreas Brekken is on a distinguished road
Re: Luftwaffe losses, Kiev, 6.11.1943, asking for help.
Hi.

Was there sucha a thing as a LaGG-5? I thought the designation was La-5, a development of the older LaGG-3 design?

Regards,
Andreas B
__________________
Ahhh... but I have seen the holy grail! And it is painted RLM 76 all over with a large Mickey Mouse on the side, there is a familiar pilot in front of it and it has an Erla Haube!
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 7th September 2011, 15:36
jeanba jeanba is offline
Member
  
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 58
jeanba is on a distinguished road
Re: Luftwaffe losses, Kiev, 6.11.1943, asking for help.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andreas Brekken View Post
Hi.

Was there sucha a thing as a LaGG-5? I thought the designation was La-5, a development of the older LaGG-3 design?

Regards,
Andreas B
LaGG-5 is a mistake that is often found in german records.
Last edited by jeanba; 7th September 2011 at 17:23.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 7th September 2011, 16:50
Maxim1 Maxim1 is offline
Senior Member
  
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Russia
Posts: 140
Maxim1 is on a distinguished road
Re: Luftwaffe losses, Kiev, 6.11.1943, asking for help.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanba View Post
LaGG-5 is a mistake that is often found as a claim in german records.
As well as LaGG-7, LaGG, Il-5, Il-7, MiG-1 and many others.
Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 2 of 3 < 1 2 3 >

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe Nick Beale Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 255 30th August 2021 23:38
Luftwaffe losses CD "Anglo-Deutsches Erinnerungs Gruppe" David Pausey Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 38 10th June 2012 05:49
Luftwaffe Losses, 17 November 1940 Steve Brew Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 7 31st May 2010 10:30
Luftwaffe Losses Revisited tmoj2000 Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 5 7th May 2010 18:58
Luftwaffe bomber losses on Lentini raid, Aug. 1943. Doug Norrie Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 0 22nd September 2008 03:11


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 19:53.

Contact Us - 12oclockhigh.net - Archive - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net