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Old 12th April 2021, 17:31
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Re: BF 110 VK+KL wrecked

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Bf 110G-4, 5538, Schuster, Gefr. Walter, , I., 3., NJG 3, , , VQ+KL, , 28-Apr-44, Caught by searchlight at 7000m and attacked by enemy intruder. Crew FSA, F & Bs WIA., 27/28-Apr per Balss., Nachtjagd, Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, p.264; Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, II, p.325; Höhler, Deutsche Nachtjagd Personalverluste, p.68; Menke, SKZ list, , Moers bei Krefeld, 100%, F, Bf Gefr. Richard Mrosik & Bs Ogefr. Karl Lüttmann, 02.30,

Currently, Michael Balss is of the opinion this loss took place on the 27th of April (because of the date on the Namentliche Verlustmeldung attached).


This loss may relate to a claim of a 100 Group Mosquito of 239 Squadron which dispatched an 'Me 110' in the Essen area at 01:50 hrs (this claim is listed in the Nachtjagd Combat Archive 1944 part two).


The latter source mentioned credits "239 Squadron Mosquito DZ309 in the hands of F/Os Depper and Follis" with the kill but on the 28th of April at 02:07 hrs...


Now, I don't know which date exactly is correct. Who knows more?

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Old 13th April 2021, 19:38
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Re: BF 110 VK+KL wrecked

Fellows—What follows is intended to clarify, simplify, and document the question of the "Bf 110 V K + K L Wrecked." Some of my comments may already have been noted.

• The photograph in the first posting on this thread carried the SKZ V Q + K L. It was a Bf 110G-4, WNr. 5338.

• The V Q + K L belly landed in Switzerland on 06.02.44 and was duly examined by Swiss authorities. The port side overall photograph noted above was presumably made after the landing in Switzerland. For this, see Ries, Deutsche Luftwaffe über der Schweiz 1939-1945, pp. 60-61 with photo exactly duplicating the image initially posted on this thread.

• Curiously enough, the Bf 110G-4 WNr. 5347 V Q + K U forced landed in Switzerland on 15.03.44. It carried the Tr.KZ 2 Z + O P of 6./NJG 6. One may refer to Ries, Deutsche Luftwaffe über der Schweiz 1939-1945, pp. 60-61 with photo.

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Old 13th April 2021, 17:35
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Re: BF 110 VK+KL wrecked

post 11# Die Flugzeugführer-Ausbildung der Deutschen Luftwaffe 1935-1945 Band II-Fliegerwaffenschulen und Ergänzungsgruppen of Sven Carlsen & Michael Meyer gives on page 297 WNr.5348 as VQ+KR
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Re: BF 110 VK+KL wrecked

Karl Ries lists 2Z+OP as WNr 5 5 4 7

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